[Football] Trouble At West Ham Match In The Netherlands

[PeterT]

They attacked the section with the players friends and family in it. Most of the other West Ham fans were at another side of the stadium.

UEFA used to have some daft ruLe that you had to be offered some tickets at least as good as those available to the home fans. So allocations involved two sections of away fans with one set housed without much protection bang in the middle of the home supporters. I have experienced this myself at a game in Slovenia. It can get a bit edgy, you are essentially using all the same facilities including toilets as the home fans. It suggests to me that this may have been a similar arrangement and that they used those ‘better’ seats for friends and family. Should Albion get into Europe, I would avoid those more expensive seats like the plague.

 

[portlock seagull]

Looks pretty nasty out there as AZ twats attack West Ham section. I deplore violence at games, but fair play to the big fella whom none shall pass.

Great opportunity there for some of the Irons to have got their nobs out and hosed down the Ferals below them.

What a bunch of pathetic weedy looking kids, all cloned in same black hoodies and unable to take on one aging bloke barring their way. AZ must take action and ban them all, not least for the aforementioned shame. Least hardest hooligans I’ve seen since Elijah Wood was cast in Green Street!

 

[A1X]

This year especially has been a huge problem in Dutch football and it's creeping in to F1 too.

This is interesting, I was aware of the large percentage of dickhead Max fans, but put this down to (a) unfiltered social media kiddies, (b) Drive to Survive and (c) him beating the black guy which attracted a certain type of fan.

But there have been repeated reports of some pretty obnoxious behaviour, Austria last year was rife with it. It would make a lot of sense.

 

[Sheebo]

For decades now , there’s been waaaay more violence at MOST other European countries than England. I think that brush we’ve always been tarred with has ran out of bristles.

 

[Reddleman]

They can't win, he has the high ground.

Obi Wan has taught you well.

 

[portlock seagull]

Obi Wan has taught you well.

Who is more the hooligan? The hooligan? Or the hooligan that follows…?

 

[Springal]

Definitely be a few shocks for a certain section of our fan base if we do end up on a European tour

 

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Disappointed he didn't lob Gimli at them.

 

[Official Old Man]

Fast forwards to 1:50. Their coach welcome makes Liverpool look meak.

 

[Napper]

lucky for the families the big lad was there to sort things out.

 

[Muzzman]

Didn’t know WHU had a cave troll, useful to have in situation like that.

 

[nwgull]

Great opportunity there for some of the Irons to have got their nobs out and hosed down the Ferals below them.

What a bunch of pathetic weedy looking kids, all cloned in same black hoodies and unable to take on one aging bloke barring their way. AZ must take action and ban them all, not least for the aforementioned shame. Least hardest hooligans I’ve seen since Elijah Wood was cast in Green Street!

That description sounds familiar to a set of fans 40 miles up the A23.

 

[Justice]

I heard the AZ mobs primarily target was tracksuit

 

[Horses Arse]

That is exactly what the bellends at Palace and Arsenal are celebrating and attemting to recreate here - with their clubs actively supporting this. It is a pathetic and ridiculous situation that needs to be addressed.

Anyone that excuses or supports this ultras bollocks is a bellend too.

 

[BN41Albion]

The Dutch disease.

There was fighting in Alkmaar itself. On Sunday Groeningan v Ajax was called off when the home team’s ultras threw enormous amounts of fireworks on the pitch. And many games have been played without away fans. If that was England we’d have a long ban from Europe

Weird I think. Dutch people I've met have all been pretty chilled people, but they certainly have an undercurrent of violence - the Dutch ultras have rampaged across Europe last few years, in pretty large numbers, too

 

[LamieRobertson]

The stewards appear slow and dont seem to have any idea what to do.

Hmm….comments on here have been made about stewards in the UK …re jobsworth etc….I’d be questioning the police presence or rather lack of ..especially as has been suggested there was some trouble in the first leg

 

[Durlston]

It was always going to be a very high-risk game.

Every match that West Ham play in Europe at the business end of tournaments seems to see bad incidents (Metz, 1999, Eintracht Frankfurt 2022, AZ Alkmaar 2023). Not that the Hammers should be blamed all the time.

It just feels that the continental clubs always see West Ham (and Millwall in Ferencvaros, Hungary in 2004) as the ultimate challenge after the dark days of the eighties.

 

[Ali_rrr]

Weird I think. Dutch people I've met have all been pretty chilled people, but they certainly have an undercurrent of violence - the Dutch ultras have rampaged across Europe last few years, in pretty large numbers, too

A lot of it is younger people and it's being blamed on corona. The Dutch equivalent of the BBC wrote an article on it: https://nos.nl/artikel/2467871-voetbalhooligans-zijn-steeds-jonger-wat-zit-daarachter


Where the clubs also worked with the hooligans (for example at FC Utrecht they have the fans house in the stadium within the stand) they are finding this harder to control now as there isn't much cohesion. Before, they could talk to the leader(s), now it just seems to erupt out of nowhere.


As I mentioned earlier, a lot of the younger people hear the stories of their dads and they want to be like them. They've seen Green Street and think they're hard in a group but as we saw yesterday, when reality hits and a proper hooligan from the 80s shows up, they all scuttle away.

 

[Durlston]

lucky for the families the big lad was there to sort things out.

Bill Gardner? Ran the Inter-City firm.

 

[Napper]

It was always going to be a very high-risk game.

Every match that West Ham play in Europe at the business end of tournaments seems to see bad incidents (Metz, 1999, Eintracht Frankfurt 2022, AZ Alkmaar 2023). Not that the Hammers should be blamed all the time.

It just feels that the continental clubs always see West Ham (and Millwall in Ferencvaros, Hungary in 2004) as the ultimate challenge after the dark days of the eighties.

The final is in Prague , in a stadium that only holds 20k ( 5k official tickets each ) and has a 9pm local kick off time.

You'd think both sides will take a good 20k +

Could be an interesting couple of days