[Football] Trouble At West Ham Match In The Netherlands

[Eeyore]

Bill Gardner? Ran the Inter-City firm.

Really ? Leads a quiet life these days. Obviously comes out for special occasions. Not sure it's him.

 

[GT49er]

Dutch fans have gone completely feral this year. They seriously need banning from Europe for at least a season.

One year ban for all Dutch clubs - after all, they banned all English clubs for several (five?) years.

 

[Napper]

Really ? Leads a quiet life these days. Obviously comes out for special occasions. Not sure it's him.

its not

 

[BNthree]

Through friends of friends I know a Utrecht hooligan. Lovely middle class guy with a white collar job that enjoys fisticuffs at the weekend. He comes over to hang out with Millwall F Troop (or whatever they’re called) 3 or 4 times a season. Dutch, and also French, hooliganism is going strong. Much more so than in the UK that’s for sure.

 

[oneillco]

The Dutch disease.

There was fighting in Alkmaar itself. On Sunday Groeningan v Ajax was called off when the home team’s ultras threw enormous amounts of fireworks on the pitch. And many games have been played without away fans. If that was England we’d have a long ban from Europe

Ultra type hooliganism is all about fireworks and banging drums, and seems to involve a lot of runty skinny types. When England or English teams have been banned it's always been because of serious actual violence.

 

[pasty]

This what concerns me if we do make europe we could end up in some Bulgarian backwater getting attacked

Me too. If we do get into Europe I will be quite picky about what away matches I’d try to get to.

 

[PeterT]

One year ban for all Dutch clubs - after all, they banned all English clubs for several (five?) years.

And it wasn’t even an English club to blame, it was Liverpool

 

[BN9 BHA]

Bill Gardner? Ran the Inter-City firm.

He’s nearly 70 years old.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

How to turn yourselves into a complete laughing stock. Any other Dutch team will look at that and think ‘just need to bring me grandad’.
BZ to the big bloke, “none shall pass”.

 

[Dr Q]

West Ham players intervene as masked Dutch fans try to attack their friends and family

Several West Ham players, including captain Declan Rice, tried to intervene after their relatives were targeted by AZ Alkmaar fans.

news.sky.com

Some poor sod in a Puma track suit got a good kicking off Zuma!

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Its a sad state of affairs in some Euro games. Policing is quite different. It looked like there were a few thousand WHU fans there but the home fans went for the few WHU fans in the hospitality section. I have never known players get heavily involved in scenes like this. Unprecidented. Im no WHU fan but its good for English football they have made the final and shows what we could also potentially achieve. Just hopefully without these shameful scenes.

It's impossible to disagree with you, disgraceful scenes indeed.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Some poor sod in a Puma track suit got a good kicking off Zuma!

Was he in a catsuit?

 

[oneillco]

One year ban for all Dutch clubs - after all, they banned all English clubs for several (five?) years.

Errr...yes, but that was as a result of 39 people dying. Last night resulted in a few fat-lips...

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Looks pretty nasty out there as AZ twats attack West Ham section. I deplore violence at games, but fair play to the big fella whom none shall pass.

The second one on the stairs is a bit of a conundrum. Lots of kids in black hoodies yet not one actually wants to reach the top.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Fast forwards to 1:50. Their coach welcome makes Liverpool look meak.

You think ? Looks like a shit bonfire night in a small village. What is the actual point ?

 

[pure_white]

'I don't like bullies' – Knollsy and the West Ham fans who took on an army of ultras

Pictures show renowned West Ham fan in torn shirt, while another supporter is seen on video single-handedly holding off a mob of hooligans

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Flynn Downes, West Ham’s young midfielder, briefly succeeded in doing so. After leaping over a pitchside barrier, the 24-year-old could be seen swinging his fists towards a group of black-shirted assailants, before he was dragged away.

Said Benrahma and Michail Antonio also charged in, while others – including Lucas Paqueta and Aaron Cresswell – were forcibly held back by stewards and officials."

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Described quite well how some simple policing could have avoided this. Bit of a clue Dutch police a mob of hooded people all together moving towards the one gate they needed to break down to get at the WHU families. One thing I think we might all agree on despite past policing errors generally the policing at football in this country has improved over the years with CCTV intelligence and so on and I cannot see that this would have happened at an English ground, for example at the Amex the policing would have picked this up for sure.

I’m gonna stick my neck out and suggest there aren’t any bottle top restrictions in The Netherlands

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Through friends of friends I know a Utrecht hooligan. Lovely middle class guy with a white collar job that enjoys fisticuffs at the weekend. He comes over to hang out with Millwall F Troop (or whatever they’re called) 3 or 4 times a season. Dutch, and also French, hooliganism is going strong. Much more so than in the UK that’s for sure.

Utrecht being one of the few places in the Netherlands I've been to, I can't emphasise enough how stupid this guy sounds.
It's like being told Inspector Morse likes to get into punch ups in his spare time.

 

[Eeyore]

'I don't like bullies' – Knollsy and the West Ham fans who took on an army of ultras

Pictures show renowned West Ham fan in torn shirt, while another supporter is seen on video single-handedly holding off a mob of hooligans

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Flynn Downes, West Ham’s young midfielder, briefly succeeded in doing so. After leaping over a pitchside barrier, the 24-year-old could be seen swinging his fists towards a group of black-shirted assailants, before he was dragged away.

Said Benrahma and Michail Antonio also charged in, while others – including Lucas Paqueta and Aaron Cresswell – were forcibly held back by stewards and officials."

GB News presenter classic.

Probably looking for a woke bun fight himself and finding that everybody is saying the West Ham fan did a top job on them. Can't find anyone, so just goes on a repetitive rant.

 

[BN41Albion]

Ultra type hooliganism is all about fireworks and banging drums, and seems to involve a lot of runty skinny types. When England or English teams have been banned it's always been because of serious actual violence.

Not true at all - there's been a lot of trouble from Dutch and also French fans in recent seasond in Europe and in their domestic leagues that has absolutely been serious actual violence