[Football] Trouble At West Ham Match In The Netherlands

[Shooting Star]

Didn’t know WHU had a cave troll, useful to have in situation like that.

That has made me cry with laughter.

 

[Spiros]

Not true at all - there's been a lot of trouble from Dutch and also French fans in recent seasond in Europe and in their domestic leagues that has absolutely been serious actual violence

I wasn’t aware of any of that. How many deaths? Remember English teams were banned off the back of the 39 deaths at Heysel, not a few pathetic posers in black looking a bit threatening

 

[BNthree]

*edit*

 

[rigton70]

If/when we make Europe there will be a lot Brighton fans who will have their eyes opened a little bit regardless of what country we travel to.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

If/when we make Europe there will be a lot Brighton fans who will have their eyes opened a little bit regardless of what country we travel to.

Such as, without some preparation, arriving back home with no credit card, no coat, and stinking of your own piss.

 

[Bodian]

Such as, without some preparation, arriving back home with no credit card, no coat, and stinking of your own piss.

Don't need to go abroad for that. Just up the A23.

 

[rigton70]

Such as, without some preparation, arriving back home with no credit card, no coat, and stinking of your own piss.

Well thanks for your Friday night out in England.

Europe is quite different as with travelling with England away on a few occasions the old bill and whoever ultras we face still think we are up for it.

as for countries take your pick

 

[Horses Arse]

Errr...yes, but that was as a result of 39 people dying. Last night resulted in a few fat-lips...

Pp

'I don't like bullies' – Knollsy and the West Ham fans who took on an army of ultras

Pictures show renowned West Ham fan in torn shirt, while another supporter is seen on video single-handedly holding off a mob of hooligans

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Flynn Downes, West Ham’s young midfielder, briefly succeeded in doing so. After leaping over a pitchside barrier, the 24-year-old could be seen swinging his fists towards a group of black-shirted assailants, before he was dragged away.

Said Benrahma and Michail Antonio also charged in, while others – including Lucas Paqueta and Aaron Cresswell – were forcibly held back by stewards and officials."

So people actually watch that shit? That's scary

 

[Ike and Tina Burner]

I honestly think that out of the European countries that take football seriously England has the least problems with hooligans. Ultras aren't really a thing here unlike literally every decent sized club on the continent. At the very least they bring a different edge to the match going experience. Sometimes that's a good thing but often It's not.

There's definitely going to be a big culture shock if we do qualify for Europe. I remember being in Nice when they were playing some Serbian club in the conference league and seeing the Serbian lads wandering around pre-match. They were honestly a scary bunch. It'll be very interesting to see what happens when big groups of fans like them rock up to Brighton station en masse. I wonder how Sussex police will handle it.

 

[Nottseagull]

I think @AZ Gull needs to come on here to state he doesn't condone this violence

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I wasn’t aware of any of that. How many deaths? Remember English teams were banned off the back of the 39 deaths at Heysel, not a few pathetic posers in black looking a bit threatening

And this will be the case for the defence from UEFA. So football hooliganism only matters if there are deaths ? Or is it important to keep blaming the English for 30 years ago to deflect the blame for the behaviour of others in the here and now ?

 

[Spiros]

And this will be the case for the defence from UEFA. So football hooliganism only matters if there are deaths ? Or is it important to keep blaming the English for 30 years ago to deflect the blame for the behaviour of others in the here and now ?

You’re right, no one should have to die for hooliganism to matter but I didn’t see anything at the West Ham game that warranted any more than a slap on the wrist at the most. Admittedly it might have been worse than reports I’ve seen but talk of throwing countries out of European competition because of it is well over the top IMHO

 

[beorhthelm]

And this will be the case for the defence from UEFA. So football hooliganism only matters if there are deaths ? Or is it important to keep blaming the English for 30 years ago to deflect the blame for the behaviour of others in the here and now ?

yes.

 

[Gabbiano]

Don't need to go abroad for that. Just up the A23.

Burgess Hill just isn’t what it used to be.

 

[oneillco]

'I don't like bullies' – Knollsy and the West Ham fans who took on an army of ultras

Pictures show renowned West Ham fan in torn shirt, while another supporter is seen on video single-handedly holding off a mob of hooligans

www.telegraph.co.uk

"Flynn Downes, West Ham’s young midfielder, briefly succeeded in doing so. After leaping over a pitchside barrier, the 24-year-old could be seen swinging his fists towards a group of black-shirted assailants, before he was dragged away.

Said Benrahma and Michail Antonio also charged in, while others – including Lucas Paqueta and Aaron Cresswell – were forcibly held back by stewards and officials."

Oh Christ...I've been tricked into watching a GB News

And this will be the case for the defence from UEFA. So football hooliganism only matters if there are deaths ? Or is it important to keep blaming the English for 30 years ago to deflect the blame for the behaviour of others in the here and now ?

That's a bit flouncy isn't it? And to be fair England did invent football hooliganism...

 

[Dr Bandler]

I honestly think that out of the European countries that take football seriously England has the least problems with hooligans. Ultras aren't really a thing here unlike literally every decent sized club on the continent. At the very least they bring a different edge to the match going experience. Sometimes that's a good thing but often It's not.

There's definitely going to be a big culture shock if we do qualify for Europe. I remember being in Nice when they were playing some Serbian club in the conference league and seeing the Serbian lads wandering around pre-match. They were honestly a scary bunch. It'll be very interesting to see what happens when big groups of fans like them rock up to Brighton station en masse. I wonder how Sussex police will handle it.

Yes, and even when I lived in gentile Zurich, there was a European match between FC Zurich and Borussia Mönchengladbach and that was "interesting" before and after the game. You could argue it was almost a local derby in European terms, but still. Amazingly Switzerland does have some hooligan problems, especially when FC Zurich play Basel.

As you say, it could be fun if we draw a Balkan or Eastern European team.

 

[Napper]

If/when we make Europe there will be a lot Brighton fans who will have their eyes opened a little bit regardless of what country we travel to.

And the lads that so often get slated on here will very much be needed to help out keeping them safe

 

[rigton70]

And the lads that so often get slated on here will very much be needed to help out keeping them safe

Aye will be interesting while they sit there enjoying a beer minding there own business and the spainish/Italia/polish etc etc etc police come wading in with there batons

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Aye will be interesting while they sit there enjoying a beer minding there own business and the spainish/Italia/polish etc etc etc police come wading in with there batons

There’s an awful lot of European games played these days and it seems the vast majority go ahead without issue.

 

[sydney]

Definitely be a few shocks for a certain section of our fan base if we do end up on a European tour

i'm imagining wheelbarrows full of broken thermos flasks and lost knitting.