Travelling to games at Falmer

[Phoenix Arrow]

Take the train the first few games and for midweek. See how it is and how parking is.
Might ask my nan if I can leave the car with her and get the train from Lewes.

 

[The Large One]

It works out as £1 a game if you pay £25 for a book of vouchers to go with a ST , bought individually alongside a match ticket won't they cost more , say £2 ?

As they've said in their answer - it's £1 per game, bought individually or in advance for the season.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Is that £1 to get there and back or £1 per mode of transport?

 

[The Large One]

If clicking on the posted the link The Albion Roar - Season Ticket podcast special (thank you Everest) is a trifle baffling, here's the typed reply given by Martin Perry and Ken Brown. Make of it what you will...



• P&R / public transport cost is not included in the ST cost - will it be included in the individual match ticket cost? If not, how would you go about buying a voucher for one game?

The P&R and or transport cost is not included in the ticket price. The Club will however be subsidising travel by public transport and selling books of vouchers that can be purchased for next season at the time you purchase your season ticket. Each game will be given a number and you simply use the voucher number for that game.

• Why is it not included?

The cost of match travel is high and if included within the match ticket the club has to pay VAT on it. By separating it out we avoid the cost of VAT and at £1 per game helps to offset the club’s running costs. The actual cost however is much higher than this so the Club is still subsidising the travel as part of its sustainable travel policy

• When you say 'it's subsidised by the club', how much will it be?

£25 for 25 tickets

• How will we be able to buy into the match travel voucher?

Individual vouchers will be available for people who buy individual match tickets.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

A couple of still unanswered questions:-

If you haven't got a voucher, will it be possible to pay on the bus for the park & ride service? If so, how much?

 

[Drumstick]

Dad and Aunt are 1901 and have a car space at Sussex uni so I'll travel with them.

 

[Chicken Run]

Going to park in Crespin Way (Hollingdean, the other side of Moulscombe Station) and catch the train.

 

[Trigger]

Easily walkable.

 

[Safeway]

It's not an "exact same poll".

The Club's questionnaire EXCLUDES the option of "Car" - merely advising that parking will be "limited and, if available, expensive". As someone who has been doing transport planning for 35 years, I'm simply astonished by any travel survey that purports to be a useful predictor of travel behaviour that doesn't include car travel as an option.

But also surely, as a tireless campaigner for the last decade for our new home, you will be more aware than most that THE CLUB DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING TO THE STADIUM. Afterall, that was one of the opponents' major objections to the whole project. By omitting the car option from the survey, the club are staying true to their word and saying that the options offered are the only options.

Seems fair enough to me.

 

[The Large One]

But also surely, as a tireless campaigner for the last decade for our new home, you will be more aware than most that THE CLUB DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING TO THE STADIUM. Afterall, that was one of the opponents' major objections to the whole project. By omitting the car option from the survey, the club are staying true to their word and saying that the options offered are the only options.

Seems fair enough to me.

But going by car IS an option.

Just not one they want to massively encourage.

It will distort the figures horribly if people who intend to travel by car either don't reply or put something else.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

But also surely, as a tireless campaigner for the last decade for our new home, you will be more aware than most that THE CLUB DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING TO THE STADIUM. Afterall, that was one of the opponents' major objections to the whole project. By omitting the car option from the survey, the club are staying true to their word and saying that the options offered are the only options.

Seems fair enough to me.

The planning permission for the stadium REQUIRES the football club to provide a minimum of 2,000 parking spaces (and a maximum of 2,200 spaces) within 1.5 kms of the stadium and for these parking spaces to be available before the stadium comes into use.

I would have thought it would be helpful in planning for the future to know just how many people hope to be getting their car into one of these spaces on matchdays.

If the figure is 16 per cent (or thereabouts) - as this, admittedly, unrepresentative sample suggests - then there could be about 3,500 people wanting to come by car. Ensuring that access to the 2,000 parking spaces is restricted to multi-occupied vehicles would be a sensible option. Not asking the question seems to me to be a risky approach to the exercise.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The planning permission for the stadium REQUIRES the football club to provide a minimum of 2,000 parking spaces (and a maximum of 2,200 spaces) within 1.5 kms of the stadium and for these parking spaces to be available before the stadium comes into use.

I would have thought it would be helpful in planning for the future to know just how many people hope to be getting their car into one of these spaces on matchdays.

It seems that the sub 10 minute journey by train from Brighton is the natural choice of most people. But seeing as how the rail network has an unparalleled ability to f*** up when its most needed, a Plan B is most definitely needed. Only the very naive will be trusting the trains ability to cope on matchdays.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

If 56 per cent do want to travel by train, of course, this could be up to 12,500 people.

Way beyond the capacity of the railway to cope.

Fortunately, as Safeway has already pointed out, this is not a representative sample of Albion fans.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It seems that the sub 10 minute journey by train from Brighton is the natural choice of most people. But seeing as how the rail network has an unparalleled ability to f*** up when its most needed, a Plan B is most definitely needed. Only the very naive will be trusting the trains ability to cope on matchdays.

On this note, typically in a season, how many games will be affected by bus replacements from Brighton to Falmer?

 

[VAL1850]

Will the new travel vouchers cover the same area as the current travel vouchers do now ie: from Seaford

 

[Dandyman]

Train although I suspect there will be times when a cab or possibly shanks pony will be used.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

If 56 per cent do want to travel by train, of course, this could be up to 12,500 people.

Way beyond the capacity of the railway to cope.

Fortunately, as Safeway has already pointed out, this is not a representative sample of Albion fans.

Indeed. One must be in possession of a valid rail ticket to register on NSC.

 

[Tomnorthi]

Train easiest from Lancing will be using that as I do now.

 

[Goring Gull]

I can't believe they couldn't build an underground car park under tye stadium with multi levels for all the supporters to use.

 

[The Fifth Column]

A very specific reason, if you must know. And I'll come clean.

It's not an "exact same poll".

The Club's questionnaire EXCLUDES the option of "Car" - merely advising that parking will be "limited and, if available, expensive". As someone who has been doing transport planning for 35 years, I'm simply astonished by any travel survey that purports to be a useful predictor of travel behaviour that doesn't include car travel as an option.

The other thing we haven't yet been told is how much it will cost to use the bus, the train or the park & ride.

That's a bloody good point LB, I'm sure there will be hundreds of people who intend to park as close as they can in Moulscoomb, Coldean and perhaps Woodingdean and Lewes Road areas and make their way to the Amex from there. Its all well and good the club burying their heads in the sand and refusing to accept cars exist or trying their hardest to dissuade people by painting driving to games as a crime against humanity but it is a fact that people are entitled to get there as they see fit and many WILL drive regardless.