[Travel] Trains shitshow - next STRIKE - October 8th (Spurs)??

[kemptown kid]

We'd all love to do that. However COVID, Putin and global energy prices mean I might not be able to.

Good luck trying to, joining a union might help.

 

[Gabbafella]

So if all the train drivers left, you think I could just walk up to the gate at Lover’s Walk depot and they’d let me take the next Victoria service for a spin?

It's almost as if people could be taught how to operate a train.

 

[Swansman]

We'd all love to do that. However COVID, Putin and global energy prices mean I might not be able to.

Tax the rich or have them pay proper wages, and none of those things would be a major problem.

There's no excuses not to pay people proper money and give them proper working conditions. Don't buy the lies. Fight for your rights.

 

[A1X]

It's almost as if people could be taught how to operate a train.

So what happens in the bit between the drivers ****ing off and the new people being ready?

 

[The Clamp]

We'd all love to do that. However COVID, Putin and global energy prices mean I might not be able to.

We could all afford to maintain our living standard and maybe even improve it if the government taxed the wealthy properly and then used the tax wisely. And I mean any government, not just this shit show. It’s the same story whomever is at the helm.

That’s the way of the world unfortunately. Hardly seems worth being disappointed anymore. What I do find disappointing is other working people deriding other working people for demanding fair pay and working conditions.

You’re doing the government’s job for them.

 

[The Clamp]

So what happens in the bit between the drivers ****ing off and the new people being ready?

Apparently the answer is agency staff. All those agency train drivers sat at home waiting for the call up!

 

[Swansman]

It's almost as if people could be taught how to operate a train.

Stop moaning then, get your train drivers license and offer you services for minimum wage.

And don't forget to wear a diaper:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...use-to-decimate-workers-terms-say-rail-unions

 

[Happy Exile]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who would do their job for their current salary. They're not paid badly in the slightest, just more militant knobheads like the binmen (and binwomen)
No sympathy for people who constantly complain about their job but instead of finding another job, they feel the need to disrupt the lives of others to try and prove a point.

Suggesting people should be happy with their salary because others would do it for less is a race to the bottom that puts all the pressure to compromise on whoever is the most desperate. That kind of exploitation is nothing we should aspire to.

 

[Is it PotG?]

We could all afford to maintain our living standard and maybe even improve it if the government taxed the wealthy properly and then used the tax wisely. And I mean any government, not just this shit show. It’s the same story whomever is at the helm.

That’s the way of the world unfortunately. Hardly seems worth being disappointed anymore. What I do find disappointing is other working people deriding other working people for demanding fair pay and working conditions.

You’re doing the government’s job for them.

Back in the 70s I recall many famous pop stars sodding off to tax-free sun under high income tax levels.

Do you not fear that, should that reoccur, the big earners might once more sod off to pastures free of high tax liabilities?

 

[A1X]

Apparently the answer is agency staff. All those agency train drivers sat at home waiting for the call up!

 

[The Clamp]

It's almost as if people could be taught how to operate a train.

So your answer is get rid of loyal, experienced, properly trained drivers with years invested in their role and replace them with rapidly trained, JCL’s on lower pay?

Welcome to Britain 2022;

Half the training, half the pay …It’s the brand new British Way!

 

[kemptown kid]

Back in the 70s I recall many famous pop stars sodding off to tax-free sun under high income tax levels.

Do you not fear that, should that reoccur, the big earners might once more sod off to pastures free of high tax liabilities?

The 1970s when the UK was at its least unequal and housing just about affordable for most? Let those who earn plenty but don't want to pay their fair share of tax sod off if they haven't done so already.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The 1970s when the UK was at its least unequal and housing just about affordable for most? Let those who earn plenty but don't want to pay their fair share of tax sod off if they haven't done so already.

The Rolling Stones and Rod the Mod are still going strong.

 

[The Clamp]

Back in the 70s I recall many famous pop stars sodding off to tax-free sun under high income tax levels.

Do you not fear that, should that reoccur, the big earners might once more sod off to pastures free of high tax liabilities?

It’s certainly a consideration. But the really big hitters aren’t going to pull out of the U.K.


Frankly there’s no benefit to the U.K. in them being here now, tax wise. The Tory’s benefit from donations but the average household? Not a bean.

Frankly the country would be better off without employers like Amazon. They are appalling employers who are changing the world for the worse. The very opposite of how we should be living.

As for Russian and Chinese investors? They harm the working man, not help us.

 

[BNthree]

What happens if you put your spurs ticket on the exchange and someone buys it but then the game is postponed?

Do they refund the purchaser and reload it on to the original STH account?

When this happened before people that had transferred their ticket to a MyAlbion+ member found the ticket stayed transferred and didn’t automatically default back to the STH when the match was rearranged. They could obviously just use the PDF ticket that was emailed at the time. Does make me think tickets that have been sold on the exchange may stay exchanged.

 

[The Clamp]

The 1970s when the UK was at its least unequal and housing just about affordable for most? Let those who earn plenty but don't want to pay their fair share of tax sod off if they haven't done so already.

Quite.
Make it so that if they don’t pay proper tax here, then they don’t have a right to work here or on British productions, no owning property here etc. They’d soon cough up or find other work.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Quite.
Make it so that if they don’t pay proper tax here, then they don’t have a right to work here or on British productions, no owning property here etc. They’d soon cough up or find other work.

In the case of a British pop star then.

Call him Elton, Mick, Bono, Rod or Sheena.

They might sell tons of music here, but live in a California mansion overlooking the surf.

How do you tax that?

 

[Swansman]

Back in the 70s I recall many famous pop stars sodding off to tax-free sun under high income tax levels.

Do you not fear that, should that reoccur, the big earners might once more sod off to pastures free of high tax liabilities?

Make some laws. If you're not paying taxes here, you're not operating or living here.

Or even better: if you're trying to blackmail the country you got rich in, the government got the right to take your company and nationalise the shit out of it.

 

[The Clamp]

In the case of a British pop star then.

Call him Elton, Mick, Bono, Rod or Sheena.

They might sell tons of music here, but live in a California mansion overlooking the surf.

How do you tax that?

Tax the heck out of the distribution company. Or don’t let them tour or sell their music in the U.K.

Pay tax or lose the revenue.

But charge reasonable tax. Not the 95% they were getting charged in the 70’s and 80’s.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

I still have sypathy. At the end of the day football is a luxury, having a wage to be able to afford heating and food shouldnt be.

I never have sympathy with strikers. Just supporting unions who are incapable of reasonable negotiation. The unions should do what they are well paid to do.