TRAFALGAR DAY - a national disgrace!

[Hungry Joe]

Silly name for a square, what the f*** was that named after?

 

[DJ Leon]

Having just read all of this thread a few thing struck me.

1. Saying nothing is going on to commemorate the Trafalagar Anniversary is just wrong. Others have pointed this out in some detail, but it amazes me that people want to dictate how we feel about things to this extent. Maybe we should have a FOUR minute silence to show just how important it is.

2. Demanding we have a bank holiday is ridiculous. If I had a bank holiday for every day that someone suggested should be one, I'd never go to work. And I'd probably have to have an EIGHT minute's silence for Princess Diana on one of those days.

3. Can people please stop saying 'and if it wasn't for that victory we'd be speaking French'. Just think about it.

 

[B.M.F]

Re: Re: Re: TRAFALGAR DAY - a national disgrace!

I have just realised how stupid my last post really sounds. Going to have to add that one to the scrap book of dumb arsed things to say What I meant was that my company made no effort on the day not to commemorate the day

 

[Yorkie]

2. Demanding we have a bank holiday is ridiculous. If I had a bank holiday for every day that someone suggested should be one, I'd never go to work. And I'd probably have to have an EIGHT minute's silence for Princess Diana on one of those days.

We still get 5 less than most European countries.
Why shouldnt we have one in Autumn?

 

[Scotty Mac]

if it wasnt for that victory we'd be speaking french - nuff said

 

[London Irish]

We still get 5 less than most European countries.
Why shouldnt we have one in Autumn?

Totally agree Yorkie on this one

But the reason why we have fewer bank holidays is the same reason why British people also work far longer hours than in most European countries, people in this country are too docile and doff-capping and just take any crap our lords and masters hand out.

Finding some BH celebration that unites the entire British nation is tricky though, and I don't think pegleg is gonna cut it really

I would have one when the clocks go back, as it's bloody depressing enough that it's suddenly dark when you're leaving work, so at least let's have the Monday off to toast winter arriving

That would be next Monday I think?

 

[enigma]

People in England do work too hard. Combine that with the weather, and no wonder we're all so miserable.

I certainly wouldn't mind living abroad.

 

[GermanShepherd]

People in England do work too hard. Combine that with the weather, and no wonder we're all so miserable.

I certainly wouldn't mind living abroad.

good one. now imagine someone, to move to the UK from abroad... how sad must that person be....

 

[Yorkie]

Totally agree Yorkie on this one

But the reason why we have fewer bank holidays is the same reason why British people also work far longer hours than in most European countries, people in this country are too docile and doff-capping and just take any crap our lords and masters hand out.

Finding some BH celebration that unites the entire British nation is tricky though, and I don't think pegleg is gonna cut it really

I would have one when the clocks go back, as it's bloody depressing enough that it's suddenly dark when you're leaving work, so at least let's have the Monday off to toast winter arriving

That would be next Monday I think?

Pegleg?

Actually he was a champion of disabled people. Can you imagine a diasbled person being allowed to do that job nowadays? Half blind and lost part of his leg

 

[Norman Baker suck my lozenge]

if it wasnt for that victory we'd be speaking french - nuff said

Oui,Tres Bien!

 

[attila]

Trafalgar debate on NSC? Not really going to break my self imposed ban on getting involved in political debates (I come mainly to talk about the football, it's my time off politics on here!) but since there is a lot the history books don't tell us I will say this..

There were a lot of UK Jacobin sympathisers around after the French revolution, inspired not only by the events in France but by the works of Lewes' Thomas Paine and other home grown radicals. They didn't see themselves as 'pro-French' but as anti-poverty! Conditions in the navy were so bad that in 1797 there were two mutinies at Spithead (near Portsmouth) and the Nore (at the mouth of the Thames) which completely paralysed the fleet and led in the first case to massive concessions by the Admiralty and in the second to a more or less pro Jacobin revolution in the navy which only failed when the sailors' leaders lost their nerve and handed the ships back.

Of course, Napoleon was no friend of the ordinary people of France: like Cromwell, another supposed 'revolutionary' regicide, he cloaked his personal ambition in populist rhetoic and brutally suppressed anyone who opposed him - he was just a king in disguise. That's why he crowned himself Emperor!

If the little despot had managed to conquer England we wouldn't have been speaking French, though. Although the Norman invasion of 1066
ensured that the language of the elite was French for a hundred years or so,
ordinary people spoke English before, during and after and eventually our 'betters' decided to revert to their mother tongue - because the Anglo-French rulers of England wanted to have a war with their fully French counterparts and realised they'd look a bit silly if they carried on speaking their language!

http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/b8.html

 

[Braders]

if it wasnt for that victory we'd be speaking french - nuff said

and i can't speak french so i'd be f***ed