I thought there was a deep lying reason you choose the name race.
Last edited:
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
TRAFALGAR DAY - a national disgrace!
- Thread starter BUTTERBALL
- Start date
I thought there was a deep lying reason you choose the name race.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
BUTTERBALL said:Indeed. I saw that ceremony on tv and it was low-key as you would expect.
However, I expected much much more from this country. The whole day passed the majority of the population by without a second thought.
How the f*** did you come to that conclusion? I can only think that you assume to know the nation's zeitgeist in order to back up your original point. The fact that there have been celebrations/commemorations, tv programmes, Royal events etc up and down the country proves if anything that many people do consider it an important piece of history. Asking for a national bank holiday to commemorate defeating one of our EU neighbours in an ancient colonial war is asking a bit much don't you think?
Last edited:
yes
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Yorkie said:
Bollocks is it. I can celebrate 'freedom from tyranny' without the need to have a day off work and wave a flag. How would you feel if the boot was on the other foot and the French suddenly decided to have a new bank holiday to celebrate defeating us in 1066?
HampshireSeagulls
Moulding Generation Z
Hungry Joe said:
But the whole point is that they didn't beat us, we are not typing in French (some of us are barely typing in English), and other countries DO celebrate beating us! Independence days from all those countries the nasty old Brits subjugated, ban 'em all!
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Oh dear.
BUTTERBALL
East Stand Brighton Boyz
- Thread starter
- #49
Hungry Joe said:
Personally I couldn't care less, they can celebrate what they like. I am not one of the PC brigade. Nelson's victory was one of Englands finest hours.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
BUTTERBALL said:
But why oh why whenever anyone puts an opposing argument or point of view to these sort of debates do you and others trot out the old 'pc brigade' jibe? It's lazy. I'm about as un-pc as you can get but I just don't see the point in having new national holidays to celebrate something that happened many generations ago in a completely different world to the one we live in now.
Hungry Joe
SINNEN
Yorkie said:
And starting posts of with 'errr' is both lazy and patronising. You really believe in the existence of this 'pc brigade' and throw it at anyone who doesn't sing from the same jingoistic songsheet as you do. It's utter rubbish, there's no such thing as the 'pc brigade' outside of some misguided policy-makers. Some people are free-thinkers believe it or not.
Lazy and patronising and jingoistic
Do you normally insult people who have a different opinion to you?
What is wrong with anniversaries?
Do you celebrate birthdays?
Our history shaped this country for better or worse and we should (hopefully) learn lessons from it.
Do you normally insult people who have a different opinion to you?
What is wrong with anniversaries?
Do you celebrate birthdays?
Our history shaped this country for better or worse and we should (hopefully) learn lessons from it.
London Irish
Well-known member
Yorkie said:
Except of course Britain in 1805 WAS a tyranny. Weren't Nelson's sailors just a load of kidnapped chavs who happened to get drunk at the wrong moment and were then lifted by the pressgangs?
Try telling them they were free
Lord Bracknell
On fire
Commemorations needn't just be of victories.
I have long-dead great uncles who were killed in the First World War.
One at Sheerness, when HMS Bulwark was completely destroyed only two months into the war - by a massive internal explosion caused by the poor storage of cordite charges, some of which were twelve years old. The ship sank instantly, killing her full complement of 781 seamen.
Another at the Battle of the Somme - killed in action on 5 November 1916.
Both of my grandmothers lost brothers. They always remembered them. So do I, regardless of the fact that the death of both of them contributed absolutely NOTHING to the achievement of either victory or freedom.
I have long-dead great uncles who were killed in the First World War.
One at Sheerness, when HMS Bulwark was completely destroyed only two months into the war - by a massive internal explosion caused by the poor storage of cordite charges, some of which were twelve years old. The ship sank instantly, killing her full complement of 781 seamen.
Another at the Battle of the Somme - killed in action on 5 November 1916.
Both of my grandmothers lost brothers. They always remembered them. So do I, regardless of the fact that the death of both of them contributed absolutely NOTHING to the achievement of either victory or freedom.
Last edited:
London Irish said:Except of course Britain in 1805 WAS a tyranny. Weren't Nelson's sailors just a load of kidnapped chavs who happened to get drunk at the wrong moment and were then lifted by the pressgangs?
Try telling them they were free
Some were pressganged but a lot were volunteers as it was a way of being employed.
Lord B I appreciate that people in your family died in incidents during the war but the battle of Trafalgar was a turning point.
The French Navy has never attacked us again since.
London Irish
Well-known member
Yorkie said:
Are you sure? I thought the French Navy were pretty key to the survival of the young, free American nation from a certain tyrant's Navy?
Lady Bracknell
Handbag at Dawn
Yorkie said:
They probably had better things to do.
Norman Baker suck my lozenge
New member
England expects.Yorkie said: