[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

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Pavilionaire

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And the BBC (radio 5) keep allowing morons to phone in and say how upset they are that Britain's greatest leader since Thatcher has been so cruelly and unfairy removed by traitors.

Pass the sick bag, Alice :facepalm:

A bit like yesterday's phone in then.

And I see within the last hour the Beeb has given arch Brexiteer Steve Baker 5 or 6 minutes airtime to make his leadership pitch.
 




A1X

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Pavilionaire

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When he resigns and presumably (as hinted on BBC) he stays until the autumn, do all 50+ who have resigned (so far) all trot back into work in a day or so, and continue to work alongside the man they've slagged off in resignation letters?
If not, how does he carry on 'leading' with most of his staff gone?

Exactly. You don't sack a member of staff for gross misconduct, then let them work out their notice period. You march them off the premises.
 


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Does anyone actually worry that, because it's Boris Johnson who has said he is resigning, he won't ? That he'll find some way of holding out and remaining.That it's just another lie.

I just can't believe he is telling the truth. Even after he announces he's left number 10 I reckon he'll go round the back and come through the garden. Then he will tell the media 'I said I would leave and *bluster* I kept my word. But I've now returned and what the British people really want to hear is...'
 


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Does anyone actually worry that, because it's Boris Johnson who has said he is resigning, he won't ? That he'll find some way of holding out and remaining.That it's just another lie.

I just can't believe he is telling the truth.Even after he announces he's left number 10 I reckon he'll go round the back and come through the garden. Then he will tell the media 'I said I would leave and *bluster* I kept my word.But I've now returned and what the British people really want to hear is...'

Yes, he'll appear at noon crooning Moon River, and will tell us all he was singing this at breakfast, and now he's resinging.
 






A1X

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Does anyone actually worry that, because it's Boris Johnson who has said he is resigning, he won't ? That he'll find some way of holding out and remaining.That it's just another lie.

I just can't believe he is telling the truth. Even after he announces he's left number 10 I reckon he'll go round the back and come through the garden. Then he will tell the media 'I said I would leave and *bluster* I kept my word. But I've now returned and what the British people really want to hear is...'

Worth remembering there is nothing technically to stop him entering the leadership election (this would only be barred by the 1922 Committee voting no confidence which they haven't got round to)
 






TomandJerry

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Rebecca Pow has resigned as environment minister. She has been at home with Covid, and it looks as if she drafted her letter before Boris Johnson announced his resignation. In the letter she says that she thinks Johnson’s position is “no longer tenable”. Johnson has now come to the same conclusion himself.

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Lever

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Does anyone actually worry that, because it's Boris Johnson who has said he is resigning, he won't ? That he'll find some way of holding out and remaining.That it's just another lie.

I just can't believe he is telling the truth. Even after he announces he's left number 10 I reckon he'll go round the back and come through the garden. Then he will tell the media 'I said I would leave and *bluster* I kept my word. But I've now returned and what the British people really want to hear is...'

I don't know of course, but I just feel Johnson has one last, as yet unclear, vindictive act left in him before he goes. We'll see........
 


Gwylan

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Nobody knows why Wilson left so abruptly but the handover then was seamless.

Wilson left because he was exhausted - he'd been leader for 14 years and PM for seven. We know now that the security services were actively plotting against him, there was the mess left by the Barber boom and the quadrupling of oil prices and there was the conflict between the pro-EU and anti-EU in his party (that led to the formation of the SDP four years later). He just want to retire to watch more football.

The handover was seamless then because the election was conducted among MPs only. It was speeded up considerably when Benn and Jenkins withdrew from the second ballot. Major similarly took over from Thatcher within a week. I think Home took an even shorter time to take over from Macmillan as they didn't have elections in those days.

Now, those pesky members decide things - that all takes time
 




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Man, imagine how bad chaos with Ed Miliband (promised 7 years ago) would have been...

Still in the EU, Corbyn's bony arse still on a back bench, tens of thousands not dead from Covid, petrol at under £180 a litre. I'm not sure I can contemplate such chaos without literally vomiting and scooping out my eyeballs with a spoon in horror.
 


birthofanorange

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Exactly. You don't sack a member of staff for gross misconduct, then let them work out their notice period. You march them off the premises.

Indeed, and I can't see how the 50+ would work with him, again, nor see how Johnson would wish to work with those who have made public their feelings about him.
It's simply untenable....isn't it?
 


Lever

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Deportivo Seagull

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What the Tories need now is a safe pair of hands and certainly not Baker. He’s viewed by many in the party as ‘dangerous’ and to closely linked to bumble****. I suspect they’ll be a lot of horse trading done to ensure he doesn’t get the job.


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Goldstone1976

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Does anyone actually worry that, because it's Boris Johnson who has said he is resigning, he won't ? That he'll find some way of holding out and remaining.That it's just another lie.

I just can't believe he is telling the truth. Even after he announces he's left number 10 I reckon he'll go round the back and come through the garden. Then he will tell the media 'I said I would leave and *bluster* I kept my word. But I've now returned and what the British people really want to hear is...'

Yes, I do worry that he’ll fudge it somehow. If not in one of the two ways you posit, then by finding a ‘reason’ to change his mind somehow between now and ‘the autumn’.

Hopefully, having mustered the balls to eventually do something about him, the Tory MPs have enough about them to ensure his departure is both real and permanent.

A disgrace of a man; truly appalling as a PM.
 


The Clamp

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You must be very shocked right now?

Not especially. Any shock is damped by his predictable wish to stay on after he has resigned. Probably in a bid to out serve May, he is 28 days short of her rather short term.

He ain’t gone yet.
 


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