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Eeyore

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JBizzle

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Ah, I see Johnson is still PM.
Are people finally starting to understand? He’s. Not. Going. Anywhere.
Get it?

Boris Johnson will stay PM until his party get rid of him. He won't resign himself. I get that.

What you don't get it that the Tory party ALWAYS eats itself. Whether it's now or in a year's time, his time will come. No PM lasts forever, even Teflon Johnson
 






The Clamp

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OK, you keep saying this but, no, I don't get it. He's a goner, and he'll be gone soon. I'm so confident of that that I'll bet you that he doesn't make it to the next party conference in September. Winnings go to the Trussell Trust, who really need the money. Name the amount. And you can't lose here, as I'm sure you would take giving a relatively small sum to a worthy charity in exchange for the end of this sh!tshow.

Yes, I keep saying that. Which tells us I am right. Because if he was gone or on his way out, I wouldn’t say it.
No thank you. I don’t have money to gamble. But I’ll take a sportsman’s bet. Let’s see what happens….
 
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nicko31

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Chris Skidmore, first of the Britannia Unchained "Britons among 'world's idlest workers" crew calls for Johnson to go.....
 


Bry Nylon

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It really wasn't introduced to be a bit of political theatre, it was introduced as a(nother) mechanism in a parliamentary democracy enabling the legislature to hold the executive to account. Instead it's evolved to be in line with your description. I've said before on here that the PSCs are one of the few things that are effective within parliamentary politics, so they're a welcome recent feature, but I won't be holding out too much hope of the Liaison Committee getting m/any straight answers out of our PM.

Yes - fully agree with you. PMQs has certainly evolved from what it was originally intended to be and I'm sure there was a time when it was conducted in quite an honourable fashion, in keeping with the purpose. Now, it just seems to be the opportunity for a bit of badly delivered stand-up and the chance to get some pre-prepared 'lines' on the 6 o'clock news. Every now and then, a devastating and unforeseen blow can be dealt - but more often than not these come from a backbencher.
 






Lever

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Excuses given

I've got covid
I have to fly urgently to Ukraine
Carrie's having triplets

Any more?

I have to decorate the flat and/or sandpaper over the facts
I'm dying in a ditch
I'm preparing to lie down in front of the bulldozers to stop Heathrow Airport's third runway.
 


studio150

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Excuses given

I've got covid
I have to fly urgently to Ukraine
Carrie's having triplets

Any more?

It was in my diary for tomorrow
I had to deal with a matter of national security, but alas due to the official secrets act I am unable to provide anymore details
With so many people resigning I thought this entire committee had resigned
I
 






Eric the meek

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I got stuck in a fridge.
I forgot.
I was at the vets.
I didn't realise I had to be there.
I was never told about it.

I was at a leaving do in Tuscany, didn't realise it was a party, and I lost track of time.
My staff forgot to put it in my diary. Frankly, I'm fed up with them.
Unexpected trip to Chequers. With timber inflation, Matt Hancock's work on the tree house is running over budget.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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BBC reporting on Twitter speculation that the suits in the 1922 committee are planning on paying BJ a visit to tell him the game's up and that he either goes or they change the rules to allow another vote of no confidence shortly after the last one. Things could move quickly now :wave:
 






The Clamp

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Boris Johnson will stay PM until his party get rid of him. He won't resign himself. I get that.

What you don't get it that the Tory party ALWAYS eats itself. Whether it's now or in a year's time, his time will come. No PM lasts forever, even Teflon Johnson

Well of course he’ll gone eventually. That’s not the point. I’m not claiming he’ll be in office until he dies.
 




The Clamp

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Anyone seriously thinking he was going to resign was always deluding themselves. The issue for him this week are the 1922 Committee elections, which could pave the way for another confidence vote (which I would expect him to lose this time around). Then either he has no choice but to resign as leader of the party under the party's own internal rules, or he goes for broke and calls an election. Either way I suspect he will be gone by the end of the year. Because he couldn't avoid it (not that he wouldn't try).

We keep hearing that the 1922 committee can or could change the rules to get rid of him. I’m sure they could. Do we have any evidence that they wish to?
 


Bry Nylon

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BBC reporting on Twitter speculation that the suits in the 1922 committee are planning on paying BJ a visit to tell him the game's up and that he either goes or they change the rules to allow another vote of no confidence shortly after the last one. Things could move quickly now :wave:

I think the end-game will be reached today. If he makes it as far as PMQs it is going to be a bloodbath.
 




Baldseagull

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BBC reporting on Twitter speculation that the suits in the 1922 committee are planning on paying BJ a visit to tell him the game's up and that he either goes or they change the rules to allow another vote of no confidence shortly after the last one. Things could move quickly now :wave:

He will tell them that he is calling an election if they make moves to change the rules. I think he will do it too.
 




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