[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'd imagine he's off to Ukraine?

….hopefully the front line.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[The Clamp]

Ah, I see Johnson is still PM.
Are people finally starting to understand? He’s. Not. Going. Anywhere.
Get it?

 

[Medwayseagull]

Nadine under the desk again, then?

Fighting Truss and Patel for the best position.

 

[Lever]

What IS this 'biblically stupid' expression all about?

Okay..... I will do your research for you this once.....

https://www.openbible.info/topics/stupidity

I have found a link, now see if you can find the appropriate quote.

What did you think it was all about?

 

[nicko31]

Yep, it's laughable isn't it? If he doesn't want others speaking on his behalf, he should stop sending them out to do the media rounds to speak on his behalf. Especially after having given them false information.

And what's he done this morning? Immediately sent Zahawi out on the media rounds to speak on his behalf...

The view of an ex-civil servant of 17 years on the Johnson cabal.

These are dangerous times....this is an indication of a failing state

https://www.lbc.co.uk/opinion/civil-servant-urges-colleagues-to-quit-over-boris-johnsons-lies/

 

[Baldseagull]

Isn't that the role of the speaker? Isn't he supposed to call out the person if they aren't answering the questions? Ah, it's that eternal wet-blanket Lindsay Hoyle... No chance there then.

I wonder how many times BoJo the Clown says "get on with the job" today?

Take a sip of weak lager everytime you hear Johnson or one of his sycophants say "Delivery", you will be pissed in no time.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Robin Walker, Minister for Schools, has walked

 

[A mex eyecan]

anyone fancy predicting how many will or won’t be gone by the end of the day …..

 

[rippleman]

He got Brexit done in the sense that he ensured we would leave at a time when there were a lot of influential people trying to ensure the opposite. That’s what that phrase means to me. With Labour now committed to the same thing there is a sense that Johnson’s usefulness is now over and people can vote on other issues. As for Corbyn, well he is a lifelong eurosceptic so it’s a shame for him that he missed his opportunity to follow through on that belief. I guess he was too weak to do what Starmer has done.

You are totally correct that Corbyn is a lifelong Eurosceptic but I think you will find that it was the right wing of the Labour party, Starmer et al, that prevented the Corbyn-led Labour Party from standing on an anti-EU ticket. The Labour Party manifesto said that they would respect the result of the Referendum but Corbyn was hamstrung from doing so.

And I'm still not sure what Starmer has done except alienate a large percentage of Party activists and ban his shadow ministers from supporting working men and women who are having to strike to get a decent wage which, if they are successful, would still result in a minimum 3% pay cut in real terms.

 

[BBassic]

Robin Walker, Minister for Schools, has walked

'Ang on a minute.

Why is there a Minister for Education and a Minister for Schools?

One would think schools would be covered under education.

 

[nicko31]

He got Brexit done in the sense that he ensured we would leave at a time when there were a lot of influential people trying to ensure the opposite. That’s what that phrase means to me. With Labour now committed to the same thing there is a sense that Johnson’s usefulness is now over and people can vote on other issues. As for Corbyn, well he is a lifelong eurosceptic so it’s a shame for him that he missed his opportunity to follow through on that belief. I guess he was too weak to do what Starmer has done.

He got it done but now wants it undone having rushed through the TCA over Christmas 2019. He didn't read it and nor did those around him.

Labour is not committed to the same thing. Their strategy will is to honour the International treaty we signed up to and use the appropriate legal mechanisms if things need changing.

One party follows the rule of law, the other thinks they can make unilateral changes when they feel like it.

No one trusts Johnson overseas, he's bad for the Tories and bad for the UK

 

[A1X]

Ah, I see Johnson is still PM.
Are people finally starting to understand? He’s. Not. Going. Anywhere.
Get it?

Anyone seriously thinking he was going to resign was always deluding themselves. The issue for him this week are the 1922 Committee elections, which could pave the way for another confidence vote (which I would expect him to lose this time around). Then either he has no choice but to resign as leader of the party under the party's own internal rules, or he goes for broke and calls an election. Either way I suspect he will be gone by the end of the year. Because he couldn't avoid it (not that he wouldn't try).

 

[A1X]

'Ang on a minute.

Why is there a Minister for Education and a Minister for Schools?

One would think schools would be covered under education.

Because if there was only one rather than two that's not very "jobs for the boys", is it?

 

[BBassic]

Johnson is up in front of the Liason Committee later today, 3pm:

https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/1f7d6322-7f63-4053-85dd-8355cb451c71

The subject? The work of Boris Johnson

 

[Machiavelli]

But PMQs is just a bit of political theatre and has never been the forum where straight answers are given to straight questions. Rather than a mechanism for holding the government to account, its more a test of how good a parliamentarian the PM is and how effective the Leader of the Opposition is. Jokes, quips and the attempt to pin labels on political opponents are expected. More tellingly. today the PM has to appear in front of the The Liaison Committee, which comprises all the chairs of select committees in the House of Commons. It will be a far lower profile and more sober encounter but one where the PM really will have to answer the questions put to him.

It really wasn't introduced to be a bit of political theatre, it was introduced as a(nother) mechanism in a parliamentary democracy enabling the legislature to hold the executive to account. Instead it's evolved to be in line with your description. I've said before on here that the PSCs are one of the few things that are effective within parliamentary politics, so they're a welcome recent feature, but I won't be holding out too much hope of the Liaison Committee getting m/any straight answers out of our PM.

 

[CHAPPERS]

There's no way Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson goes to that committee today.

 

[Baldseagull]

He got it done but now wants it undone having rushed through the TCA over Christmas 2019. He didn't read it and nor did those around him.

Labour is not committed to the same thing. Their strategy will is to honour the International treaty we signed up to and use the appropriate legal mechanisms if things need changing.

One party follows the rule of law, the other thinks they can make unilateral changes when they feel like it.

No one trusts Johnson overseas, he's bad for the Tories and bad for the UK

Oven ready deal was half baked.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

There's no way Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson goes to that committee today.

Excuses given

I've got covid
I have to fly urgently to Ukraine
Carrie's having triplets

Any more?

 

[Machiavelli]

Ah, I see Johnson is still PM.
Are people finally starting to understand? He’s. Not. Going. Anywhere.
Get it?

OK, you keep saying this but, no, I don't get it. He's a goner, and he'll be gone soon. I'm so confident of that that I'll bet you that he doesn't make it to the next party conference in September. Winnings go to the Trussell Trust, who really need the money. Name the amount. And you can't lose here, as I'm sure you would take giving a relatively small sum to a worthy charity in exchange for the end of this sh!tshow.