[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Baker lite]

as long as you didn't vote for Brexit in 2016 or Johnson in 2019 you are redeemed.

One but not t’other.[emoji1303]

 

[Chicken Run]

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I'd be much more interested to know what these two talked about a couple of years ago.

Putin definitely likes a photo with Idiots doesn’t he


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[Dick Swiveller]

Putin definitely likes a photo with Idiots doesn’t he


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Go on then. We know you are proud of it and are hinting. Show us yours

 

[pb21]

Putin definitely likes a photo with Idiots doesn’t he

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He certainly does.

 

[Chicken Run]

He certainly does.

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Indeed


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[Drumstick]

Tory meltdown incoming...

Putin definitely likes a photo with Idiots doesn’t he


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Certainly explains why Trump was so anti NATO for a while. Lucky he is useless and couldn’t damage it.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html?amp

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[pb21]

Certainly explains why Trump was so anti NATO for a while. Lucky he is useless and couldn’t damage it.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html?amp

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Let’s not forget the time Trump blackmailed Zelenskyy either, by withholding $400 million of military aid unless Ukraine was able to provide him with juicy stuff on Biden; he was impeached for this.

TBH seems like lots of murky stuff with Trump, Ukraine and Russia...

 

[Raleigh Chopper]

One thing is for sure, the way I voted in 1997, along with millions of others has had a devastating effect on world stability, if only I knew then what I know now.
I’m not sure I can forgive myself, I feel the need to apologise to the world for inflicting that on the planet.[emoji20]
I’m sorry.

If you can't forgive yourself do something about it.
You certainly won't be missed round here and I doubt in your own household too.

 

[franks brother]

 

[clapham_gull]

Could these 3 scamps fit in there somewhere?

There is an awful lot that isn't in the public domain about how our security services under Blair foiled a number of attempted attacks on UK soil on "enemies" of Putin.

The Governments position at the time was to keep him close and engaged, because the only thing that Putin "respects" is strength.

He focuses on (and is obsessed with) with weaknesses in foreign Governments which is why we are in the position we are in now.

For all their massive foreign policy mistakes they had a much better handle on Putin that anyone since..

 

[Baker lite]

If you can't forgive yourself do something about it.
You certainly won't be missed round here and I doubt in your own household too.

What are you suggesting?

 

[Bry Nylon]

If you can't forgive yourself do something about it.
You certainly won't be missed round here and I doubt in your own household too.

You really should tone it down a bit please and think before you press ‘submit reply.’ NSC is not the place for this sort of nasty stuff.

 

[Randy McNob]

t o Я i e s

 

[Peteinblack]

Up until the 1990s, the Tories repeatedly alleged that the Labour Party was funded by the Russians, and that a Labour government would thus be subservient to Moscow.

How things have changed!

 

[WATFORD zero]

Up until the 1990s, the Tories repeatedly alleged that the Labour Party was funded by the Russians, and that a Labour government would thus be subservient to Moscow.

How things have changed!

I remember those days, when the leading Conservatives actually believed that Conservatism was best for the country rather than Self serving Opportunism

 

[Peteinblack]

I remember those days, when the leading Conservatives actually believed that Conservatism was best for the country rather than Self serving Opportunism

I almost look back nostalgically to the era when there were some decent (genuinely One Nation) Tories, who had a conscience and a bit of compassion for the less well-off, and accepted that the rich, privileged and powerful had a sense of public service and duty-of-care towards ordinary British people; people like Ian Gilmour, Francis Pym, Chris Patten, Douglas Hurd, James Prior, etc.

Thatcher denounced them as 'wets', and in today's Right-wing (English Nationalist) Conservative Party, they'd be called 'Marxists' or 'Commies'

 

[Baker lite]

An interesting read.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...worked-to-get-vladimir-putin-elected-in-2000/

 

[Randy McNob]

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[Chicken Run]

Tory meltdown incoming...

An interesting read.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...worked-to-get-vladimir-putin-elected-in-2000/

It will be described as ‘whataboutism’ by some on here but if true, then that is truly terrifying and makes you wonder what else that rat was responsible for!

I might add that it would explain the silence of a man who over the last few years seemingly has plenty to say!!

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[BadFish]

An interesting read.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...worked-to-get-vladimir-putin-elected-in-2000/

Very interesting, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I can't help but wonder how things would be different if he had achieved his goal of integrating Putin into the Western-ruled international system.

I have to agree though it would be nice if governments were more choosy when trying to make alliances with regimes committing war crimes.