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I'm trying to think what the Private Eye caption would be on that picture.
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I'm trying to think what the Private Eye caption would be on that picture.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Chas gets caught with a sneaky voddie in his water bottle.
clapham_gull
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Private Eye employs comedy writers though.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Johnson clearly more adept at covering his arse than his head.
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vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Sounds exactly like our current Prime Minister?
Filthy little peas in a pod.
It's more a question of which one you distrust least.
You’re hired.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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Cummings is quite convenient for those who continue to support Boris Johnson. He held very little power within Government (much to his frustration) and eventually jumped ship.
We tended to view politicians (and political figures) within the Conservative Party pre pandemic as remain or leave, but as the pandemic hit other major differences came apparent.
Cummings was very much on the pro-lockdown early, led science lead the way branch. Other Tories very much not so.
He clearly lied (in the garden) for the reasons for breaking the rules (he did), but his subsequent story that he fled London (rightly or wrongly) because of death threats is probably true.
Retrospectively, it explains the Police visiting his fathers house (which was witnessed) to check he was ok, whilst he was staying in a house on the farm grounds.
When I look back retrospectively what happened in 10 Downing Street is far far worse that whatever Cummings did or didn't. Unfortunately we didn't know about it at time.
I still think he is a complete oddball (with oddball ideas) who should be nowhere near Government. But I've seen little evidence to suggest he is lying about Johnson. If anything he has held back and merely confirmed what has been leaked from elsewhere.
He wasn't the source of original party leaks. When journalists are talking about "duty of care" to their sources, they aren't talking about Cummings.
We tended to view politicians (and political figures) within the Conservative Party pre pandemic as remain or leave, but as the pandemic hit other major differences came apparent.
Cummings was very much on the pro-lockdown early, led science lead the way branch. Other Tories very much not so.
He clearly lied (in the garden) for the reasons for breaking the rules (he did), but his subsequent story that he fled London (rightly or wrongly) because of death threats is probably true.
Retrospectively, it explains the Police visiting his fathers house (which was witnessed) to check he was ok, whilst he was staying in a house on the farm grounds.
When I look back retrospectively what happened in 10 Downing Street is far far worse that whatever Cummings did or didn't. Unfortunately we didn't know about it at time.
I still think he is a complete oddball (with oddball ideas) who should be nowhere near Government. But I've seen little evidence to suggest he is lying about Johnson. If anything he has held back and merely confirmed what has been leaked from elsewhere.
He wasn't the source of original party leaks. When journalists are talking about "duty of care" to their sources, they aren't talking about Cummings.
Raleigh Chopper
New member
Ok, so much water has gone under the bridge since Johnson became PM that if anyone wants a refresher course then watch Dispatches on All 4 from this evening (don't think it is a repeat from earlier in the week but apologies if it is)
My God I have missed Andrew Neill on mainstream TV.
Very eye opening and a must watch if you are contributing to this thread.
Spoiler alert to get you interested.
He interviews a furious red wall MP who could not see his very ill wife in hospital (only disclosed tonight)while the parties are going on.
He then gets a 1 to 1 with Johnson who promises him the earth and it actually looks like he is softening towards Johnson, and he is an ex Labour Councillor.
Very good programme.
My God I have missed Andrew Neill on mainstream TV.
Very eye opening and a must watch if you are contributing to this thread.
Spoiler alert to get you interested.
He interviews a furious red wall MP who could not see his very ill wife in hospital (only disclosed tonight)while the parties are going on.
He then gets a 1 to 1 with Johnson who promises him the earth and it actually looks like he is softening towards Johnson, and he is an ex Labour Councillor.
Very good programme.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
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Yes very good, I'm half way through.
And as hard it is for the Corbynistas (*) of this world to swallow, it will be those who know him and have known him that will bring him down.
(*) Not sure where that leave Piers Corbyn who was a personal friend of Johnson when he was London Mayor.
But isn't that exactly what Johnson is famous for? It's been said over and over again that people come out of a meeting with him thinking he's on their side ... until they discover opponents think that too.
The European Super League was a classic example. The chairmen think, following a meeting with Johnson, that he's given them the nod, only to find him decrying the move a couple of days later
Don’t worry, Boris is over the party thang and now reckons he can make Brexit be a good thing. Out of nowhere.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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I'm not sure there are any real EU rules left to tear up any more? Besides if we find any and start to disobey or ignore them it merely means the EU will continue with its rules and standards on their side of the border..... which will then involve more paperwork and delay....the queue for Dover will start at Maidstone.
Poor poor Johnson, Brexit is about the only cause left in his locker and despite the " Oven Ready Deal " he is doomed to keep resurrecting and reheating the Sovereignty battle that was supposedly won a long time ago.
Time for a change of direction maybe? How about a fantastic new Bridge to somewhere?
Here are the sorry excuses and diversions we have heard from team Johnson so far.....
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...stop-treating-the-public-as-if-they-are-fools
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...stop-treating-the-public-as-if-they-are-fools
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
The Torys are in great danger of turning into the Banana Republicans unless they boot out Johnson quickly.
nicko31
Well-known member
Red tape, LOL....
Away from their delusion, the hard reality is the Vote Leave levy goes ahead in April, on top of sky rocketing cost of living
Cronyism, incompetence, huge benefit fraud and trade sanctions all cost money.
Dick Swiveller
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Report being released later this morning to Boris. So not much longer to go until we are all smeared in Whitewash and can start planning for the Brexit Benefit Festival Bonanza.
Fantastic, I've been waiting for all the benefits to kick in, sunny uplands something or other. . .
Now we're not in the EU I see the Express and Mail can share fonts. another winningest benefit.