[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Dick Swiveller]

Fantastic, I've been waiting for all the benefits to kick in, sunny uplands something or other. . .

Now we're not in the EU I see the Express and Mail can share fonts. another winningest benefit.

I look forward to being able to buy all of the retro computer bits from Europe that have shipped everywhere but the UK for the last year or so,

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Report being released later this morning to Boris. So not much longer to go until we are all smeared in Whitewash and can start planning for the Brexit Benefit Festival Bonanza.

I have a feeling it going to the police gives him all the cover he needs.

 

[nicko31]

Fantastic, I've been waiting for all the benefits to kick in, sunny uplands something or other. . .

Now we're not in the EU I see the Express and Mail can share fonts. another winningest benefit.

The Mail is back to its old best now that Dacre is back.

Over at the Express its a bit more mixed, some days I think they are trolling their own readers takin the piss...

 

[Audax]

Report being released later this morning to Boris. So not much longer to go until we are all smeared in Whitewash and can start planning for the Brexit Benefit Festival Bonanza.

Although ... #10 referred to what they've received today as an "update" earlier, rather than a "report". Could have been a slip of the tongue, or could be an important element - has been seized upon by some journos as a sign that Gray still fully intends to release her full report once the Met are done.

 

[vegster]

Don’t worry, Boris is over the party thang and now reckons he can make Brexit be a good thing. Out of nowhere.

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The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away... We are going to be enforcing our own meddling Red Tape from now on, a beauty from the BBC today on the government's " Radical simplification of Alcohol Duty "...... Even the EU wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to enforce this ! 3 alcohol bands to be replaced with 27 !


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60195871



Proposed changes to alcohol duty will lead to higher prices and less choice for wine drinkers, the owner of wine merchant Laithwaites has warned.

The proposals, contained in October's Budget, were described by Chancellor Rishi Sunak as the "most radical simplification of alcohol duties for over 140 years".

But Direct Wines said the complexity would be "crippling" for the trade.

It said small and medium firms would "probably go out of business".

In the Budget, the chancellor said that under the new system for alcohol duty, which is due to start in 2023, taxes on sparkling wine, draught beer and cider would be cut, but would rise for stronger drinks such as red wine.

According to the Wine and Spirit Trade Association (WSTA), 80% of white wines will face a duty hike, while 90% of red wines will come under a higher rate of tax.

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, the treasurer of Direct Wines, Tim Curtis, said that under the present system there were three rates of duty on wine: one for still wine, a slightly higher one for sparkling wine and a higher one for fortified wine.

"So it's just three numbers and the majority of still wines sold in the UK, it's £2.23 a bottle, it couldn't really be much simpler," he said.

"But the Treasury have had a go and they've created 13 wine bands for the same £2.23, so for every half a percent of alcohol increase it goes up about 10p per bottle and above the 15% threshold there's another 14 bands so really they're replacing three with 27."

The WSTA has calculated implementing the changes would result in an increase in costs of about £250m a year for the wine trade.

"The complexity for the wine trade... is crippling," said Mr Curtis.

 

[Audax]

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[Baldseagull]

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away... We are going to be enforcing our own meddling Red Tape from now on, a beauty from the BBC today on the government's " Radical simplification of Alcohol Duty "...... Even the EU wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to enforce this ! 3 alcohol bands to be replaced with 27 !


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60195871



Proposed changes to alcohol duty will lead to higher prices and less choice for wine drinkers, the owner of wine merchant Laithwaites has warned.

The proposals, contained in October's Budget, were described by Chancellor Rishi Sunak as the "most radical simplification of alcohol duties for over 140 years".

But Direct Wines said the complexity would be "crippling" for the trade.

It said small and medium firms would "probably go out of business".

In the Budget, the chancellor said that under the new system for alcohol duty, which is due to start in 2023, taxes on sparkling wine, draught beer and cider would be cut, but would rise for stronger drinks such as red wine.

According to the Wine and Spirit Trade Association (WSTA), 80% of white wines will face a duty hike, while 90% of red wines will come under a higher rate of tax.

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, the treasurer of Direct Wines, Tim Curtis, said that under the present system there were three rates of duty on wine: one for still wine, a slightly higher one for sparkling wine and a higher one for fortified wine.

"So it's just three numbers and the majority of still wines sold in the UK, it's £2.23 a bottle, it couldn't really be much simpler," he said.

"But the Treasury have had a go and they've created 13 wine bands for the same £2.23, so for every half a percent of alcohol increase it goes up about 10p per bottle and above the 15% threshold there's another 14 bands so really they're replacing three with 27."

The WSTA has calculated implementing the changes would result in an increase in costs of about £250m a year for the wine trade.

"The complexity for the wine trade... is crippling," said Mr Curtis.

Don't worry, you can get a few bottles of wine completely duty free from your trip to France now, rather than buying as much as you liked for the extortionate French Duty of £0.03 a bottle.

 

[nicko31]

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away... We are going to be enforcing our own meddling Red Tape from now on, a beauty from the BBC today on the government's " Radical simplification of Alcohol Duty "...... Even the EU wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to enforce this ! 3 alcohol bands to be replaced with 27 !


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60195871



Proposed changes to alcohol duty will lead to higher prices and less choice for wine drinkers, the owner of wine merchant Laithwaites has warned.

The proposals, contained in October's Budget, were described by Chancellor Rishi Sunak as the "most radical simplification of alcohol duties for over 140 years".

But Direct Wines said the complexity would be "crippling" for the trade.

It said small and medium firms would "probably go out of business".

In the Budget, the chancellor said that under the new system for alcohol duty, which is due to start in 2023, taxes on sparkling wine, draught beer and cider would be cut, but would rise for stronger drinks such as red wine.

According to the Wine and Spirit Trade Association (WSTA), 80% of white wines will face a duty hike, while 90% of red wines will come under a higher rate of tax.

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, the treasurer of Direct Wines, Tim Curtis, said that under the present system there were three rates of duty on wine: one for still wine, a slightly higher one for sparkling wine and a higher one for fortified wine.

"So it's just three numbers and the majority of still wines sold in the UK, it's £2.23 a bottle, it couldn't really be much simpler," he said.

"But the Treasury have had a go and they've created 13 wine bands for the same £2.23, so for every half a percent of alcohol increase it goes up about 10p per bottle and above the 15% threshold there's another 14 bands so really they're replacing three with 27."

The WSTA has calculated implementing the changes would result in an increase in costs of about £250m a year for the wine trade.

"The complexity for the wine trade... is crippling," said Mr Curtis.

Again small businesses getting screwed over again and again with red tape

Meanwhile fossil fuel companies making £20B extra this winter out of OUR north sea. No windfall tax apparently because they're having a hard time

Seems f**k business is selective and not for all

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Fantastic, I've been waiting for all the benefits to kick in, sunny uplands something or other. . .

Now we're not in the EU I see the Express and Mail can share fonts. another winningest benefit.

Does that mean we get our 'Brexit Dividend'? I wonder how much we'll get each?

 

[zefarelly]

I look forward to being able to buy all of the retro computer bits from Europe that have shipped everywhere but the UK for the last year or so,

We used to make valves in England.

 

[zefarelly]

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away... We are going to be enforcing our own meddling Red Tape from now on, a beauty from the BBC today on the government's " Radical simplification of Alcohol Duty "...... Even the EU wouldn't have been stupid enough to try to enforce this ! 3 alcohol bands to be replaced with 27 !


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60195871



Proposed changes to alcohol duty will lead to higher prices and less choice for wine drinkers, the owner of wine merchant Laithwaites has warned.

The proposals, contained in October's Budget, were described by Chancellor Rishi Sunak as the "most radical simplification of alcohol duties for over 140 years".

But Direct Wines said the complexity would be "crippling" for the trade.

It said small and medium firms would "probably go out of business".

In the Budget, the chancellor said that under the new system for alcohol duty, which is due to start in 2023, taxes on sparkling wine, draught beer and cider would be cut, but would rise for stronger drinks such as red wine.

According to the Wine and Spirit Trade Association (WSTA), 80% of white wines will face a duty hike, while 90% of red wines will come under a higher rate of tax.

Speaking to the BBC's Today programme, the treasurer of Direct Wines, Tim Curtis, said that under the present system there were three rates of duty on wine: one for still wine, a slightly higher one for sparkling wine and a higher one for fortified wine.

"So it's just three numbers and the majority of still wines sold in the UK, it's £2.23 a bottle, it couldn't really be much simpler," he said.

"But the Treasury have had a go and they've created 13 wine bands for the same £2.23, so for every half a percent of alcohol increase it goes up about 10p per bottle and above the 15% threshold there's another 14 bands so really they're replacing three with 27."

The WSTA has calculated implementing the changes would result in an increase in costs of about £250m a year for the wine trade.

"The complexity for the wine trade... is crippling," said Mr Curtis.

I don't see a few options on a spread sheet as crippling, just idiotic bureaucracy, the avoidance of which is exactly what Brexit was sold on.

 

[Gwylan]

Does that mean we get our 'Brexit Dividend'? I wonder how much we'll get each?

I'm holding out for my own unicorn

 

[Bob!]

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Will those 'over-arching findings' include 'Johnson lied to Parliament'?

 

[Audax]

Will those 'over-arching findings' include 'Johnson lied to Parliament'?

Dunno, but sounds like Gray is *not* on-side for a cover-up:

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[WATFORD zero]

I have loved some of the recent Voxpops

Indignantly 'Well yes I voted for Boris, but recently he has shown no respect and is treating us like complete fools'

You don't say

 

[Audax]

Sue Gray "update" published: https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ent-premises-during-covid-restrictions-update

 

[Bob!]

Sue Gray's (report) update says there was a "serious failure to observe not just the high standards expected of those working at the heart of Government but also of the standards expected of the entire British population at the time" at some of the gatherings.

 

[Bob!]

Conclusion
24.The gatherings within the scope of this investigation are spread over a 20-month
period – a period that has been unique in recent times in terms of the complexity
and breadth of the demands on public servants and indeed the general public. The
whole of the country rose to the challenge. Ministers, special advisers and the Civil
Service, of which I am proud to be a part, were a key and dedicated part of that
national effort.
However, as I have noted, a number of these gatherings should
not have been allowed to take place or to develop in the way that they did.
There is significant learning to be drawn from these events which must be addressed
immediately across Government. This does not need to wait for the police
investigations to be concluded.

 

[Mellotron]

Sue Gray's report says there was a "serious failure to observe not just the high standards expected of those working at the heart of Government but also of the standards expected of the entire British population at the time" at some of the gatherings.

Important semantic point for any of us who hope the Government might in any way be held to some sort of transparency; this is NOT the report.

This is an update, and the full report will likely be released once Met have finished their investigation. We won't see the report for a long time, and this isn't it.

Now watch all the Tory MPs say this is it and let's all move on.

 

[Bodian]

Very much looks as though this is a holding summary - with her intention to publish everything later on. Interesting too in respect of the one the Police are not interested in. This doesn't include Johnson's birthday bash - so they must be looking at that one as potentially against the law.