[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Bodian]

BREAKING: Labour will have a majority on the new Cumberland Council

This is a remarkable result - all 3 MPs in the area are Conservatives (Carlisle, Copeland, Workington)

2 seats still to be declared.

This is brilliant.

The Tory media are trying to play down Labour’s success this morning, I’m not sure how long they can hold that line.

It's an odd situation here though - as all the districts and all the county councillors are being done away with - to be replaced with two unitary authorities. So, it's actually quite hard to compare like-for-like. The county council was NOC, with Conservatives being the largest party.

Allerdale & Carlisle were only just about Tory anyway, Copeland was already Labour - and the county councillors in those areas were a bit of a mix. Still - even if you added all the previous councillors together, it wouldn't have come out as the Labour landslide that it has.

The other half of the county is also a bit mixed, as we have Barrow (strong Labour council, but with a Tory MP), South Lakeland (strong Lib Dem council and MP) and Eden (Just about Tory council, Tory MP). I'm expecting it to be Lib Dem, then Conservatives. May even be a NOC with Lib Dem / Labour combining to run it.

 

[Stato]

Guardian's current count is 73/200 declared: The Tories down 131 seats, Labour up 87, Lib Dems up 42 and Greens up 22.

Bear in mind that when these seats were last contested in 2018, there were 123 seats lost by UKIP to share out, but that the Tories were still down 35, Labour up 79, LD's up 75 and Greens up 8. The huge gains for Labour that were being spun by Conservative Central Office with talk of losses of 800-1000 seem obvious nonsense when you find that the Tories began with only thirteen hundred seats across the country.

The results from the most recent Scottish Local Council Elections in 2017 saw the Tories rise from 112 to 276 seats. These results come later and some Scots Tories are predicting further bad news.

 

[Gwylan]

Meanwhile, Richmond looks like a complete shitshow for the Tories.

That's the most astonishing result of the night (so far, at least). This is a council that the Tories were running, just four years ago and is now predicted to be left with just one seat. Can't remember many council votes collapsing like that - although Worthing may be interesting

 

[Seaber]

The results from the most recent Scottish Local Council Elections in 2017 saw the Tories rise from 112 to 276 seats. These results come later and some Scots Tories are predicting further bad news.

The first results are starting to come in from Scotland.

Tweeddale West (Scottish Borders) 1st Prefs:

Con: 28.1% (-15.7)
SNP: 26.2% (+1.1)
LD: 22.8% (+6.1)
Grn: 16.4% (+11.7)
Lab: 6.5% (+2.1)

Elected: Con, SNP, LD (nc)
Turnout: 57.4% #BBSLE22 ^AF

Huge Tory drop in one of the stronger Scottish Tory areas.

Edit:

Two more, similar trend.

Tweedale East (Scottish Borders) 1st Prefs:

SNP: 30.3% (+1.6)
Con: 22.5% (-11)
RT (Ind): 18.3% (+3.6)
LD: 9.9% (-2.2)
Grn: 9.6% (+9.6)
Lab: 9.2% (+9.2)
Van: 0.2% (+0.2)

Elected: SNP, Con, RT (Ind) (nc)
Turnout: 54% #BBSLE22 ^ LF

Kilmarnock North (East Ayrshire)
1st Preference:

SNP: 47.6% (-2.2)
Lab: 27.9% (+4.8)
Con: 13.8% (-12.2)
IG (Ind): 8.1% (New)
Alb: 2.6% (New)
2017 non-returns: 0% (-1.1)

Elected: SNP x2, Lab (+1 SNP, -1 Con)
Turnout: 40.4% #BBSLE22 ^RS

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[Blue Valkyrie]

Great results so far.

Commentators are saying, whilst it is good news, it isn't all sunshine and roses for Labour but my takeaway is that it's been pretty f**king humbling for the Tories and that's a win in my book.

It's better that Labour don't start mutually back slapping that the job is already done.

They need to keep up the effort.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Mean while, HMRC have stated there will be no controls on


• a requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports
• a requirement for further health certification and SPS checks for EU imports
• on the import of chilled meats from the EU

No requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports..........this beggars belief. The message was protecting your borders....this is the exact opposite. Astonishing.

 

[scamander]

The Conservative line of "Labour aren't winning as many seats as they should" is a bit problematic. The stock answer heard mamy a time today aims to point out how ineffective Labour have been (though the Tory party have been setting up a nonsense figure as to how many seats they may lose so the actual figure looks better). The question I'd like to hear asked is "ok, so Labour aren't hoovering up all those lost seats but other parties are. What this says is that voters will take anyone over a Tory".

It'll be interesting to see how the Tory media play this, I suspect fear mongering about Lib/Lab pact with the SNP as an influence as the drum beaten.

Wild card theory is that Boris goes for sn election. It'll mean he has no leadership challenges but more importantly avoiding how bad the economy could get in 15 months.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Mean while, HMRC have stated there will be no controls on


• a requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports
• a requirement for further health certification and SPS checks for EU imports
• on the import of chilled meats from the EU

No requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports..........this beggars belief. The message was protecting your borders....this is the exact opposite. Astonishing.

To quote directly from arch Remainer, Jacob Rees-Mogg

The minister of state for Brexit opportunities and government efficiency spoke to ITV News on the matter, and said that allowing the government's own Brexit deal to be fully implemented "would have been an act of self harm.”

 

[pb21]

The Conservative line of "Labour aren't winning as many seats as they should" is a bit problematic. The stock answer heard mamy a time today aims to point out how ineffective Labour have been (though the Tory party have been setting up a nonsense figure as to how many seats they may lose so the actual figure looks better). The question I'd like to hear asked is "ok, so Labour aren't hoovering up all those lost seats but other parties are. What this says is that voters will take anyone over a Tory".

It'll be interesting to see how the Tory media play this, I suspect fear mongering about Lib/Lab pact with the SNP as an influence as the drum beaten.

Wild card theory is that Boris goes for sn election. It'll mean he has no leadership challenges but more importantly avoiding how bad the economy could get in 15 months.

He cant call an election until the war in Ukraine is over, the Tory party cant even entertain the thought of a leadership challenge at the moment, let alone a general election.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[A1X]

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Interesting. Eastleigh is usually one of those seats which acts as a bellweather, if the Tories aren't winning it come a GE they're not doing very well.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Mean while, HMRC have stated there will be no controls on


• a requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports
• a requirement for further health certification and SPS checks for EU imports
• on the import of chilled meats from the EU

No requirement for safety and security declarations on EU imports..........this beggars belief. The message was protecting your borders....this is the exact opposite. Astonishing.

Meanwhile pig farmers in this country are going out of business as there's nobody to work in the abattoirs.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Meanwhile pig farmers in this country are going out of business as there's nobody to work in the abattoirs.

A shortage of veterinarians as many came from Europe.

 

[A1X]

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So the pro-EU Lib Dems now control Leave-backing Hull?

Either Brexit is no longer the guiding force in people's voting habits or a strongly Leave area is having serious Brexit doubts. Neither of which are good news for the Tories.

 

[Bodian]

Now the elections have taken place, are we going to hear who else has been fined for partying?

 

[KZNSeagull]

So the pro-EU Lib Dems now control Leave-backing Hull?

Either Brexit is no longer the guiding force in people's voting habits or a strongly Leave area is having serious Brexit doubts. Neither of which are good news for the Tories.

Or maybe they think the Lib Dems will be better at fixing the potholes and gritting the roads etc?

Too much overthinking going on as a result of LE results as usual. There is a very good example right now re Ed Davey's speech banging on about the NHS and tax rates etc, not issues that were actually voted upon last night.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Or maybe they think the Lib Dems will be better at fixing the potholes and gritting the roads etc?

Too much overthinking going on as a result of LE results as usual. There is a very good example right now re Ed Davey's speech banging on about the NHS and tax rates etc, not issues that were actually voted upon last night.

 

[jcdenton08]

Or maybe they think the Lib Dems will be better at fixing the potholes and gritting the roads etc?

Too much overthinking going on as a result of LE results as usual. There is a very good example right now re Ed Davey's speech banging on about the NHS and tax rates etc, not issues that were actually voted upon last night.

Everyone has and will always spin everything to fit their world view. Labour supporters are also notorious for getting carried away at the slightest improvement/shift in momentum (no pun intended).

I hope everyone got a council/councillor who does them right by their local area, which is the point of these elections.

We've seen before in Brighton & Hove how awful a badly run and inexperienced council can really mess things up. There is a time for a protest vote, local elections certainly aren't it, unless you want eye-wateringly expensive cycle lanes nobody uses, uncollected rubbish and a lack of fiscal planning.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Meanwhile pig farmers in this country are going out of business as there's nobody to work in the abattoirs.

Either this or shut down to swine flu brought on by the removal of safety and security checks.