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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
32,468
Brighton
Cons look on course to lose around 350 seats, based on what’s happened so far.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
Some absolutely great results coming in thick and fast. Tory’s are getting their pants pulled down. Superb.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
BREAKING: Labour will have a majority on the new Cumberland Council

This is a remarkable result - all 3 MPs in the area are Conservatives (Carlisle, Copeland, Workington)

2 seats still to be declared.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
23,669
Brighton
BREAKING: Labour will have a majority on the new Cumberland Council

This is a remarkable result - all 3 MPs in the area are Conservatives (Carlisle, Copeland, Workington)

2 seats still to be declared.

This is brilliant.

The Tory media are trying to play down Labour’s success this morning, I’m not sure how long they can hold that line.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I just hope these new councils make a difference because you can be sure the Tories will use anything to point the finger at them.
 






Seaber

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2010
1,130
Wales
To me it looks like an okay night for Labour. Some progress seems to have been made with anti-semitism, but Brexit still problem.
Good nights for Lib Dems and Greens.
Heading towards disaster for Tories but not there yet.

Will be interesting to see the Scottish results (looks like Labour may get second - therefore biggest pro union party) and NI (DUP may come third after SF and Alliance).

There have been rumours the PM may want an early election this autumn. Despite Labour being ahead in polls and making small gains, doesn't seem to be enough to say momentum fully with Labour. But with Lib Dems making gains and potentially falling DUP representation, it could be that Tories would be squeezed out without the help of their NI pals to form minority or coalition government.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
This is brilliant.

The Tory media are trying to play down Labour’s success this morning, I’m not sure how long they can hold that line.

probably as long as the Liberal's are doing better. its no victory for Tories, but will take the gloss off London headline grabbing wins for Labour.
 






vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,272
This is brilliant.

The Tory media are trying to play down Labour’s success this morning, I’m not sure how long they can hold that line.
Traditionally Council elections tend to have a lower turnout unless linked to General Elections...shifts could well be magnified when it's their time and the effects of Brexit, government ineptitude and lies has taken effect .
 


Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
4,951
Way out West
Great results so far.

Commentators are saying, whilst it is good news, it isn't all sunshine and roses for Labour but my takeaway is that it's been pretty f**king humbling for the Tories and that's a win in my book.

I'm not sure that it's really that positive in "red wall" seats? Still plenty of people voting Tory in places like Hartlepool. Tories even gained a few seats in Barnsley and Bolton. Personally I'm waiting for Somerset...will be VERY interesting to see if Lib Dems and Greens make any headway here.
 






KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,092
Wolsingham, County Durham
I just hope these new councils make a difference because you can be sure the Tories will use anything to point the finger at them.

No matter how the national parties always try to shoehorn national policies into LEs, ultimately it will come down to how much their council tax changes and how local services are affected. Wandsworth will be very interesting to see what happens. An example up here is Durham County Council that went Tory for the first time ever last year and their proportion of council tax did not rise at all this year - we will wait and see how services are affected longer term but so far the bins are still collected, potholes are still being fixed, the roads were constantly gritted throughout the winter etc.
 






A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
20,531
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Interesting that Labour appears to have held position (if not made very slight gains) in the "red wall" seats. 2018 was a point when Labour was on the front foot (was the dregs of the Theresa May years), their collapse only happened in 2019. If Labour is back at 2018 levels in the red wall already there'll be a few squeaky bums on the Tory backbenches in the coming days / weeks.

Meanwhile, Richmond looks like a complete shitshow for the Tories.
 


Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
25,900
West Oxfordshire has gone from Tory to NOC.

I'm pleased for NOC. You never hear much about them, but they have won a few councils in recent times.
 










nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly
Results going as I expected, you have to remember Labour did quite well last night when TM was in Brexit turmoil. So gains modest.

LD's showing signs of causing Tories real issues now in the wealthy home counties, Tories are now anti-business (unless their mates are involved) which doesn't play well

Labour need to step things up in the years ahead, IMO they are not aggressive enough towards the crime syndicate which is essentially running the country
 


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