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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, is facing the sack in the coming months, Harry Lambert claims in a good article for the New Statesman. Lambert says he has heard this from three high-placed Tory sources. He writes:

Inside No 10, I am told that Johnson has become openly contemptuous of Sunak, referring to him disparagingly by at least two expletive-laden nicknames. Both convey the sense of betrayal that Johnson feels after Sunak failed to offer his full support to Johnson at the peak of the partygate crisis in February.

At Chequers ten days ago – prior to the damning tax revelations that have scuttled Sunak’s national standing – Johnson was already delighting in the blowback Sunak was facing after his spring statement fell flat three weeks ago. Nadine Dorries, a cabinet colleague of Sunak’s and a long-time Johnson loyalist, was a guest that weekend.

Perhaps most fatally, Lynton Crosby – the most trusted political strategist in the Tory party, who is informally advising Johnson in No 10 – is also gunning for Sunak. He has let it be known that he intends to finish the chancellor off. And a senior cabinet minister who has not always opposed Sunak now thinks that the he “deserves everything he gets”.

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Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, is facing the sack in the coming months, Harry Lambert claims in a good article for the New Statesman. Lambert says he has heard this from three high-placed Tory sources. He writes:

Inside No 10, I am told that Johnson has become openly contemptuous of Sunak, referring to him disparagingly by at least two expletive-laden nicknames. Both convey the sense of betrayal that Johnson feels after Sunak failed to offer his full support to Johnson at the peak of the partygate crisis in February.

At Chequers ten days ago – prior to the damning tax revelations that have scuttled Sunak’s national standing – Johnson was already delighting in the blowback Sunak was facing after his spring statement fell flat three weeks ago. Nadine Dorries, a cabinet colleague of Sunak’s and a long-time Johnson loyalist, was a guest that weekend.

Perhaps most fatally, Lynton Crosby – the most trusted political strategist in the Tory party, who is informally advising Johnson in No 10 – is also gunning for Sunak. He has let it be known that he intends to finish the chancellor off. And a senior cabinet minister who has not always opposed Sunak now thinks that the he “deserves everything he gets”.

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Hopefully all true, and all open secrets. Fingers crossed that Sunak rises to it and gets his retaliation in first. A well worded resignation from him, focusing on law-breaking and trust, would surely be terminal for Big Dog?
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Hopefully all true, and all open secrets. Fingers crossed that Sunak rises to it and gets his retaliation in first. A well worded resignation from him, focusing on law-breaking and trust, would surely be terminal for Big Dog?

Big dog has surrounded himself with nodding dogs and is very well protected.

Sunak's lack of support for Boris during partygate looks like it won't be tolerated and he's going because of it.

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Dick Swiveller

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Hopefully all true, and all open secrets. Fingers crossed that Sunak rises to it and gets his retaliation in first. A well worded resignation from him, focusing on law-breaking and trust, would surely be terminal for Big Dog?

Probably on her earlier but who does that leave us with? Mogg, Gove or Truss? I'm off to invest in razor blades.
 




TomandJerry

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Looks like the police are wading in...

"A former deputy assistant commissioner for the Metropolitan police has told Sky News that officers have a “huge amount” of Partygate evidence that they still have not reviewed. Asked if it was correct that the Partygate investigation has further to go, Stephen Roberts said:

Yes, that’s my understanding as well. There’s a huge amount of material that the team still has to sift through and collate and then submit to lawyers, to be absolutely certain that they have a cast iron case and are able to prosecute if needs be."

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A1X

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Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Perhaps they'll wait until after the local elections.

The Tory Party likes winners - al the time Johnson was winning they'll support him - be seen to be losing and the knives will be out.

In addition, this could be a cut by a dozen cuts - it's highly likely the Met will be issuing him with more fines.....
 






vegster

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Big dog has surrounded himself with nodding dogs and is very well protected.

Sunak's lack of support for Boris during partygate looks like it won't be tolerated and he's going because of it.

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Could Sunak's lack of support for Johnson during Partygate be simply because he knows what occurred was law breaking? He knew that if he was supportive of Johnson he might be dragged down too.

After the last few weeks though I'm pretty sure Rishi is contemplating his position , he's probably blown the chance of PM. He's not an eloquent liar and he struggles when his agenda is picked apart and he then loses his cool. Probably best to play with the wife's millions and snare a couple of high earning/low hours directorships.

Probably he'll hang on till the election where he will announce he wants to spend more time with his family. Tge only power he has left is to decide the time of his leaving, if he wants to get one over on Johnson he should resign immediately and offer a full apology and say he knew at the time that the party's were morally wrong and illegal but he was told to keep schtumm. ....by Johnson.
 






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Thunder Bolt

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There are Conservatives with integrity and principles.

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Kinky Gerbil

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Boris Johnson supporters are a different breed

Safe to say Julia Hartley Brewer is right wing, yet is being called a Labour loving left winger for calling him to go.

Insane
 










TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Tory MP Craig Whittaker has called for Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak to quit after they were fined for breaching coronavirus laws.

According to the Halifax Courier, the Calder Valley MP said during a Facebook Q and A: “I not only think that the prime minister should resign but I also think that Rishi Sunak should resign as well.

“Through this whole process it hasn’t been particularly clear that the prime minister broke any rules until of course he’s been issued with a fixed penalty notice this week.

“My expectation is that he and the chancellor should do the right thing and resign.

“The reality is that they’re not going to resign. We’ve seen that from the press and they’ve both issued apologies so I suspect we’ll end up where we are and moving on.”

The MP said he will not be submitting a letter to the 1922 Committee of backbench Tories, saying he expects the prime minister would win the vote which would detract from the government’s “day-to-day” business."

So there we have it, no letter of no confidence because he believes BJ has a majority and would win it.



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pb21

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Tory MP Craig Whittaker has called for Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak to quit after they were fined for breaching coronavirus laws.

According to the Halifax Courier, the Calder Valley MP said during a Facebook Q and A: “I not only think that the prime minister should resign but I also think that Rishi Sunak should resign as well.

“Through this whole process it hasn’t been particularly clear that the prime minister broke any rules until of course he’s been issued with a fixed penalty notice this week.

“My expectation is that he and the chancellor should do the right thing and resign.

“The reality is that they’re not going to resign. We’ve seen that from the press and they’ve both issued apologies so I suspect we’ll end up where we are and moving on.”

The MP said he will not be submitting a letter to the 1922 Committee of backbench Tories, saying he expects the prime minister would win the vote which would detract from the government’s “day-to-day” business."

So there we have it, no letter of no confidence because he believes BJ has a majority and would win it.



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Sounds to me like Whittaker should resign the whip.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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Boris Johnson supporters are a different breed

Safe to say Julia Hartley Brewer is right wing, yet is being called a Labour loving left winger for calling him to go.

Insane

I personally wouldn't say she is right wing, more neo liberal do as I like bat shit bonkers and her ideology fits the current crop like a glove.

But absolutely yes.

Calling Julia Hartley Spewer a "Labour loving left winger" is like complaining that Rees Moog is a bit too socialist for ones liking.

Insane.
 


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