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[Albion] Top 4 finish



Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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If you look at these graphs, we should potentially already be in the Champions League spots:

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Xg tables are the biggest pile of shit ever...
Xg just demonstrates the dominance of an attack/defence over the duration of a game, it has no relation to the correct outcome.

Potter proved you can stat pad your perceived attacking threat, by having 20+ unlikely chances per game, but in reality only look like scoring 0-1 goals.
As the table above shows, he's still at it, with a 7th place position....
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
3,267
Uckfield
That went (predictably) well...................
Plenty more chances for them to drop points and allow us a foot in the door. Third is possible. 5th or 6th more likely. But I like the idea of targeting third, as IMO it makes it more likely we land 4th or 5th.
 


warmleyseagull

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Apr 17, 2011
4,389
Beaminster, Dorset
Xg tables are the biggest pile of shit ever...
Xg just demonstrates the dominance of an attack/defence over the duration of a game, it has no relation to the correct outcome.
Que? If it 'demonstrates the dominance of an attack/defence over the duration of a game' then surely it does have a relation to the outcome. We all know you can have one shot on target and win a game, but you won't win a Title doing that. Look at the accompanying table; does look fairly like the PL table. There are teams that defy the logic: Brentford and Fulham are outliers, the former because of their excellence at set pieces, the latter have, IMO, been quite lucky and are getting found out.

Agree Xg is no more than guide but it has relevance.
 




























Mt.Fuji

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Jan 5, 2023
237
I do understand Brighton playing in Europa League is a very big event for the people who have been Brighton fans for many years, but I'd say there surely is a very big difference between Champions League and Europa League. Especially football fans outside Europe, they watch UEFA Champions League but not Europa League much. I guess 67 points are required for top 4 finish = next season's Champions League. Currently 46 points with11 games left, so 7 wins out of 11 games required and it might sound difficult but if Brighton win tonight, it will become 6 wins out of 10 games and it sounds a lot easier (than 7 wins out of 11 games) ;)
 




Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
73,888
West west west Sussex
I am surprised people think it is that ridiculous. Look who is above and around us:

- Arsenal & City: Yeah, I don't think we will be catching them.
- Newcastle: Looking great, but as they proved against Wednesday, don't have too much depth. Could easily go on a run of struggling to score I think. Do look decent though.
- Man United: In form, but as someone said, could implode. Maybe that factor has gone now Ronaldo has left.
- Spurs & Liverpool: Both seem to be incredibly inconsistent. Both easily go on runs where they just can't win games. Liverpool a shadow of their former selves, and Spurs relying on Kane.
- Fulham & Brentford: If both of them are up there, there is no reason we can't be. I am biased, but I would say player for player, we have a better squad then these 2 teams.
- Chelsea: Doesn't look like it is getting any better under Potter. May just be one of those seasons for them.

I am not saying it is going to happen, and I really don't think it will, but we are capable of beating any team. Hit some rich form, beat the teams above us, and we are well in the mix. It's also so tight up there, it isn't like there is a top 4 like yester year and then the other 16.

Or am I just being to optimistic?
Nothing has changed in the 3 months since you wrote that.

Begging the question:-

"Why did we bother with the last 3 months?"
 


Nobby

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Sep 29, 2007
2,892
Don't get me wrong I'd enjoy the ride but I think it's a little naive to think we wouldn't be in for a rude awakening in the CL and I'm not sure they'd be plenty of teams worse than us in the group stages. Even the europa league is packed full of huge clubs in the latter stages and 'smaller' teams that perform to a high level in the early stages.
We’re up there now
It’s a bit like when people said we weren’t ready for the Premier League or weren’t ready for the Top 10.
Well now we’re in the top 25 clubs in the whole of Europe. That’s just a fact!
There’s a heck of a lot of dross in the Champions League and the Europa League is full of clubs who would struggle to get out of League 1. And the Conference League? Have you even heard of more than 50% of the clubs in that. I haven’t.
If we made the Champions League, we would give a good account of ourselves with these players, maybe not so much if we lose the best of them in the close season perhaps.
 












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