Time to face facts - We are not a very good football team

[Uncle Spielberg]

Or perhaps some of the fans have some idea of what a good footballer, a good manager and good attacking football look like. We are heading in the right direction and it will take time, just look at Notts County losing to Morecombe at the weekend with Sol Campball in the side.

Slade proved his ability by keeping the shambles that we were under Adams in this division against all the odds. Player for player we are clearly a much better squad than this time last year, and unlike then we are showing signs of being a decent side. But so many new faces is going to take time. I am not accepting second best, I'm accepting that Slade needs time to drill this new set of players and they need time to gel. He won't get 2 years, but he needs until the New Year at least before people start getting on his back.

I really do not understand why people like you and Spielberg don't support Man U. That club is tailormade for you.

Thats very lazy but hardly suprising. Its all you ever get to ANY criticism of the results on the pitch. f*** off and support Manure or f*** off and support Chelsea . I don't think I will if its all the same to you.

I want BHAFC to be a SUCCESSFUL football team. Now 19th in the 3rd division of English football does not constitute that in my book. I find it depressing the total lack of ambition at the club at the moment from the manager, the board and the fans.

Listen to yourselves for a minute. Most people are posting they would be very happy with mid table. Well I am NOT happy with mid table 3rd division. Even Wilkins managed 7th a couple of years ago with a MUCH lower budget than Slade. Also previous managers such as Adams, Coppell, Taylor and McGhee have achieved promotions and success with little budget with the same or more contraints and the same shit ground and training facilities.

RAISE THE BAR a little will you.

Why all of a sudden is everyone wetting themselves at the prospect of mid table as if its a fantastic achievement ?.

Also people need to wake up if they think we will be mid table and then next season the other 23 teams will roll over and let us walk the title. We need a bit more urgency and ambition on the pitch and results wise and to be less happy with shit. Yes 19th is shit.

Some fans I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible as they wear it around their neck like a badge of honour. " I am a bigger fan than you as I will watch them no matter how shit they " and if you question anything f*** off and support Manure. The " I was at Hereford and I went to Gillingham fans who will relive those past " glories " to the grave.

All fine and well but there are 3000-4000 people who think like that and we need 12000 at Falmer just to break even.

I have supported this club Man and Boy for 36 years and will not stop that I just want some AMBITION and for people to be so less happy with TURD.

 

[Acker79]

Thats very lazy but hardly suprising. Its all you ever get to ANY criticism of the results on the pitch. f*** off and support Manure or f*** off and support Chelsea . I don't think I will if its all the same to you.

I want BHAFC to be a SUCCESSFUL football team. Now 19th in the 3rd division of English football does not constitute that in my book. I find it depressing the total lack of ambition at the club at the moment from the manager, the board and the fans.

Listen to yourselves for a minute. Most people are posting they would be very happy with mid table. Well I am NOT happy with mid table 3rd division. Even Wilkins managed 7th a couple of years ago with a MUCH lower budget than Slade. Also previous managers such as Adams, Coppell, Taylor and McGhee have achieved promotions and success with little budget with the same or more contraints and the same shit ground and training facilities.

RAISE THE BAR a little will you.

Why all of a sudden is everyone wetting themselves at the prospect of mid table as if its a fantastic achievement ?.

Also people need to wake up if they think we will be mid table and then next season the other 23 teams will roll over and let us walk the title. We need a bit more urgency and ambition on the pitch and results wise and to be less happy with shit. Yes 19th is shit.

Some fans I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible as they wear it around their neck like a badge of honour. " I am a bigger fan than you as I will watch them no matter how shit they " and if you question anything f*** off and support Manure. The " I was at Hereford and I went to Gillingham fans who will relive those past " glories " to the grave.

All fine and well but there are 3000-4000 people who think like that and we need 12000 at Falmer just to break even.

I have supported this club Man and Boy for 36 years and will not stop that I just want some AMBITION and for people to be so less happy with TURD.

Freudian slip?

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

some fans, " I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible "

Not confusing really is it.

Anyway you think I like us being shit if you want but you aint gonna get 12000 at Falmer playing like this and once the novelty is worn off crowd of 6000 will be the norm in the bootom half of the 3rd division.

 

[NS Herald]

Yeah, we're that crap, that a tiny bit more luck with the woodwork on Saturday, would have left us in the really bad situation of being eigth in the table, and only a couple of points out of a play-off place.

We must be shit

It's so utterly predictable that US and all the other asshole has beens will start a thread like this. There is simply no point in wading through all their crap but at least it's refreshing to see some intelligent people can make a short succinct comment as above and hey presto - f*** off you morons and go and 'support' another team.

Yee gods we created so many opportunites in what was a thoroughly entertaining game, Southend deserve great credit for having a go and playing good football, we deserve credit for all the good things that happened and sadly another defensive cock up from TE proved costly - but just look at the Man City back four who cost hundreds of millions and had NO IDEA of how to defend a simple cross.

Get life in perspective or just keep quiet and do us all a favour.

 

[The Wizard]

Thats very lazy but hardly suprising. Its all you ever get to ANY criticism of the results on the pitch. f*** off and support Manure or f*** off and support Chelsea . I don't think I will if its all the same to you.

I want BHAFC to be a SUCCESSFUL football team. Now 19th in the 3rd division of English football does not constitute that in my book. I find it depressing the total lack of ambition at the club at the moment from the manager, the board and the fans.

Listen to yourselves for a minute. Most people are posting they would be very happy with mid table. Well I am NOT happy with mid table 3rd division. Even Wilkins managed 7th a couple of years ago with a MUCH lower budget than Slade. Also previous managers such as Adams, Coppell, Taylor and McGhee have achieved promotions and success with little budget with the same or more contraints and the same shit ground and training facilities.

RAISE THE BAR a little will you.

Why all of a sudden is everyone wetting themselves at the prospect of mid table as if its a fantastic achievement ?.

Also people need to wake up if they think we will be mid table and then next season the other 23 teams will roll over and let us walk the title. We need a bit more urgency and ambition on the pitch and results wise and to be less happy with shit. Yes 19th is shit.

Some fans I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible as they wear it around their neck like a badge of honour. " I am a bigger fan than you as I will watch them no matter how shit they " and if you question anything f*** off and support Manure. The " I was at Hereford and I went to Gillingham fans who will relive those past " glories " to the grave.

All fine and well but there are 3000-4000 people who think like that and we need 12000 at Falmer just to break even.

I have supported this club Man and Boy for 36 years and will not stop that I just want some AMBITION and for people to be so less happy with TURD.

Every time we lose you post the same shit.

 

[Lokki 7]

I have supported this club Man and Boy for 36 years and will not stop that

Sounds to me like you have though. You tell me, how do you support the club? By not going to games and slagging them off on the internet after every defeat?

Every Brighton fan wants us to do well, that's a given. The difference is that the majority understand what it takes to do well and that there are no quick fixes.

 

[Steve Foster]

I agree reluctantly that we are not very good.

In fact we are really just a one man team. The problem is Forster is not Zamora.

The rest of the team huff & puff, the midfield are okay, but the defence is awful. How many of our players would get into an average league 1 side?

The defence is totally useless, except our keeper(s) who get plenty of practice picking the ball out of the net.

After a 4-0 rout at Bristol Rovers on Saturday, we will find ourselves back in the bottom 4.

Very depressing, but until we have backroom staff that can coach properly, we will be nothing other than a club flirting with relegation.

 

[Acker79]

some fans, " I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible "

Not confusing really is it.

Actually, yes it is. I think what you mean to say is "I sometimes think some fans genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible, so they can claim to be a better fan for continuing to support them"

As originally written it comes across as: "Some Fans (like me, for instance) genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible"

Your above correction comes across as "Some fans say 'I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible'" which doesn't make sense, even when put in the context of its own paragraph:

Some fans say 'I genuinely want BHAFC to be as shit as possible'" as they wear it around their neck like a badge of honour. " I am a bigger fan than you as I will watch them no matter how shit they " and if you question anything f*** off and support Manure. The " I was at Hereford and I went to Gillingham fans who will relive those past " glories " to the grave.

US, you're welcome to your negativity, high expectations, whatever you want to call it. I was just making fun of a poorly worded paragraph because I had nothing else to add to the discussion.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

Enough of this defeatist talk already.

I'm living thousands of miles away and am really looking forward to getting back to watch the Albion play sometime soon. The fact that one or two of the NSC habitual bitchers, moaners and whiners can't even be bothered to get along to support the side they claim to support is shameful. I couldn't care less how long you claim to have supported them or what you did 10, 20 or 30 years ago, the club needs your support now.

If you genuinely can't afford it, fair enough. But if you can afford it, then support the club through thick and thin. That's what real supporters do - not sit on the internet firing off criticisms when you can't even be bothered to attend a game once a fortnight. And if you're going to give your money away, give it to the Albion - not the bookmakers.

It sounded like we were particularly unlucky to lose Saturday's game. I'm sure we'll probably win at least one in the last minute sometime this season to balance it out.

In Forster, we've got one of Division 1's top goalscorers. We've scored more goals than Swindon, Millwall, Brentford, Walsall, Exeter, Oldham, Carlisle and Hartlepool - all who are currently above us in the table. Sort the defence out and we'll have a decent enough team for this division.

Get off the internet, get along to Withdean and get behind the lads.

Well said that man

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[Twinkle Toes]

Sounds to me like you have though. You tell me, how do you support the club? By not going to games and slagging them off on the internet after every defeat?

Every Brighton fan wants us to do well, that's a given. The difference is that the majority understand what it takes to do well and that there are no quick fixes.

Very well said Lokki. It seems to me that your comments there should be a fitting final comment on US's negative rantings. Sadly, I'd wager we'll have another umpteen pages (& then exactly the same thing will happen after the next defeat). This really IS f***ing Groundhog Day.

 

[hart's shirt]

There's a clear difference between those that actively support the Albion by paying to watch them and those that follow the Albion's progress.

You can't get away with either going on past commitments or waiting for the team to get better before you start watching them again.

That's not support - that's really just an interest.

And yes, due to distance, I'd classify myself as being just someone who follows the Albion's progress at the moment rather than a supporter. The difference is that I'm looking forward to changing that status soon enough when I get back to Brighton irrespective of the Albion's league position, league or level of performance.

So if you're close enough to Withdean and can afford it, buy a ticket, get behind the team and support the lads.

 

[Acker79]

There's a clear difference between those that actively support the Albion by paying to watch them and those that follow the Albion's progress.

You can't get away with either going on past commitments or waiting for the team to get better before you start watching them again.

That's not support - that's really just an interest.

And yes, due to distance, I'd classify myself as being just someone who follows the Albion's progress at the moment rather than a supporter. The difference is that I'm looking forward to changing that status soon enough when I get back to Brighton irrespective of the Albion's league position, league or level of performance.

So if you're close enough to Withdean and can afford it, buy a ticket, get behind the team and support the lads.

But... what if you're an unlucky omen. I've missed one home game this season and it's the only one we've won. Shouldn't I stay away even if I can afford to go?

 

[Easy 10]

I find it depressing the total lack of ambition at the club at the moment from the manager, the board and the fans.

Thats a strange statement.
Bloom has made no secret of the fact that he is looking for this club to push on into the Championship in time for Falmer, and he has bankrolled not only the stadium, but also a massive overhaul of the squad this summer. So the board are doing their part.

Salde is, I think, doing his level best to bring more quality into the squad within the budget he has been given, and by and large I think he has succeeded in this. A lot of the deadwood has gone, and permanent signings of the likes of Crofts, Dicker, Bennett, Tunnicliffe and McNulty are looking like good quality, solid long-term investments. The jury is still out on Dickinson, but then you can't expect everyone to be an INSTANT success surely. So Slade is doing his part.

As a fan, I can only speak personally. I'd LOVE us to be pushing for the Playoffs, obviously. But I HAVE to temper my expectation with the knowledge that this is a new team which is curently under construction. We're still a bit short in several areas, and I'm confident Salde will address this, but its not something thats going to magically fall into place overnight. I never expected us to be STORMING this division this season, because we are a work in progress. And compared with last season, we ARE progressing. I just think its unrealistic to expect us to be one of the frontrunners when on the field, the team is in transition. Thats not "lack of ambition", that just realistic expectation for where we are right now. I'm still a STH going to every home game and a handful of aways, so I'm doing my part.

That it really.

 

[Brighton Breezy]

Or perhaps some of the fans have some idea of what a good footballer, a good manager and good attacking football look like. We are heading in the right direction and it will take time, just look at Notts County losing to Morecombe at the weekend with Sol Campball in the side.

Slade proved his ability by keeping the shambles that we were under Adams in this division against all the odds. Player for player we are clearly a much better squad than this time last year, and unlike then we are showing signs of being a decent side. But so many new faces is going to take time. I am not accepting second best, I'm accepting that Slade needs time to drill this new set of players and they need time to gel. He won't get 2 years, but he needs until the New Year at least before people start getting on his back.

I really do not understand why people like you and Spielberg don't support Man U. That club is tailormade for you.

I am realistic. I didn't expect us to do anything this season other than push for mid table.

I realise Rome wasn't built in a day and all that.

I just don't see what is wrong with hoping for more, especially given the money spent on the current squad. I don't expect us to be owning the league like Leeds, or flying high in the championship. It would just be nice if we were doing better than the likes of Exeter, Gillingham, Walsall, Brentford, Stockport et al.

I don't think that is too much to ask.

 

[Easy 10]

I don't expect us to be owning the league like Leeds, or flying high in the championship. It would just be nice if we were doing better than the likes of Exeter, Gillingham, Walsall, Brentford, Stockport et al.

I don't think that is too much to ask.

Fair enough. But lets see where we are in relation to those teams after 28 games, not 8. We're only a couple of points off them right now !
8 games is nothing. Its just a brief run of form.

 

[Mendoza]

The team havent been booed off Withdean yet, so it cant be that bad!

It is frustrating losing, the home record is probably as bad as it has ever been over 4 games. There is still hope. At least we have lost whilst scoring two goals. It has been the norm for us to lose without even threatening the goal.

Off the back of 3 games we had some momentum built, so when it comes crashing back down to earth after losing a game, some people over react. Yes the situation is bad. A point a game pretty much is not the form needed or expected, especially with near £1 million invester in the current squad.

We are not performing well, but that doesnt mean we are not a very good football team. We also have the top scorer in the league, possibly the whole country?

Oh and as we lost, obviously this means the Slade-o-meter has turn us back into soccerflids!!

 

[hart's shirt]

But... what if you're an unlucky omen. I've missed one home game this season and it's the only one we've won. Shouldn't I stay away even if I can afford to go?

Simple - buy a ticket and give it to someone else. Then watch from the trees.

Your negative supernatural energies will be balanced by the positive green energies.

You can then watch the game fully confident of an Albion win.

 

[Acker79]

Simple - buy a ticket and give it to someone else. Then watch from the trees.

Your negative supernatural energies will be balanced by the positive green energies.

You can then watch the game fully confident of an Albion win.

but I'd still be going to watch the game, even if I'm not in the ground.

And what if it's not going in the ground but giving the club my money that is causing this?

 

[Silent Bob]

Fair enough. But lets see where we are in relation to those teams after 28 games, not 8. We're only a couple of points off them right now

I agree. The slight concern I have though is that it has been these kind of teams we have been losing to. We've only played one of the real contenders so far and that was Huddersfield. We will need to up our game massively in the next two matches if we want to get anything other than two hidings.

 

[Simster]

I am realistic. I didn't expect us to do anything this season other than push for mid table.

I realise Rome wasn't built in a day and all that.

I just don't see what is wrong with hoping for more, especially given the money spent on the current squad. I don't expect us to be owning the league like Leeds, or flying high in the championship. It would just be nice if we were doing better than the likes of Exeter, Gillingham, Walsall, Brentford, Stockport et al.

I don't think that is too much to ask.

Salad just needs to sort his defence out - then it sounds like we might become a top 10 side. I think we're all disappointed with the start that has been made, but it really is too early to judge.