[Politics] Tim Martin - what goes around.....

[Weststander]

Are you him? If not how do you know?

Just a fraction short on each glass would get you one or two extra pints per barrel. (BTW I was told by ex Weatherspoons staff but I choose to leave it as an open question for obvious reasons)

There was a very recent C5 TV doc about the success of Weatherpoons, where (not putting the boot in) ex-staff touched upon their former tricks of the trade on food and drink. Nothing major.

But all now firmly in the company’s past.

 

[Guinness Boy]

There was a very recent C5 TV doc about the success of Weatherpoons, where (not putting the boot in) ex-staff touched upon their former tricks of the trade on food and drink. Nothing major.

But all now firmly in the company’s past.

Now that's more like it. I'm not saying anything major. I'm saying a former (well pre-lockdown) staff member told me they were to err on the side of under pouring rather than over serving a pint because you can get more out of the barrel that way. Clever business trick, like I said earlier. The punter isn't going to miss it, especially if he's a few pints to the good or a raging alky in at 10am.

Still, I'm sure an old man who thinks "Weights and Measures" have a hotline knows more than former staff and a C5 documentary team.

 

[Weststander]

Now that's more like it. I'm not saying anything major. I'm saying a former (well pre-lockdown) staff member told me they were to err on the side of under pouring rather than over serving a pint because you can get more out of the barrel that way. Clever business trick, like I said earlier. The punter isn't going to miss it, especially if he's s few pints to the good or a raging alky in at 10am.

Still, I'm sure an old man who thinks "Weights and Measures" have a hotline knows more than former staff and a C5 documentary team.

I haven’t heard the expression HM Weights and Measures for decades, nice to see that an olde British tradition carries on.

If they did slightly fiddle, I’m sure they weren’t the first pub chain/brewery to chance their arm. I recall getting short change on a pint many a time.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I don't need to Google it

Weights and Measures is an ACT. It's not something you can contact.

Have a hat

Well most places are checked randomly, so anywhere unlikely to have a policy to short measure, especially nationwide.

Here's the facts

1. Buying factor leads to cheap price
2. Short life beer does not exist
3. Their dispense system is superb which means the beer is served at the correct temp and good condition.
4. They are NOT briefed on serving short measures
5. It's a haven for undesirables
7. You'll never see me in one
8. It does decent beer generally in poor conditions (properties)
9. Tim is a wanker

 

[Guinness Boy]

Well most places are checked randomly, so anywhere unlikely to have a policy to short measure, especially nationwide.

Here's the facts

1. Buying factor leads to cheap price
2. Short life beer does not exist
3. Their dispense system is superb which means the beer is served at the correct temp and good condition.
4. They are NOT briefed on serving short measures
5. It's a haven for undesirables
7. You'll never see me in one
8. It does decent beer generally in poor conditions (properties)
9. Tim is a wanker

Fair and, indeed, reasonable.

Re 3) does that mean they pour more accurately.? I'm not being pedantic (I have never worked behind a bar) but surely a side effect of having a superb dispense system is that you waste less than the competition - thus getting more per barrel than your independent local? I imagine that could easily be twisted by someone affected by 9) ?

 

[zefarelly]

Fair and, indeed, reasonable.

Re 3) does that mean they pour more accurately.? I'm not being pedantic (I have never worked behind a bar) but surely a side effect of having a superb dispense system is that you waste less than the competition - thus getting more per barrel than your independent local? I imagine that could easily be twisted by someone affected by 9) ?

I've worked in pubs in the past . . . Waste/ullage gets measured and documented . . . . On trust as far as I could tell . . . Theres a (( 10%??) bonus if you try hard.

I don't recall where, but have been in one or two unpleasant establishments where a button is pressed to dispense a measured beverage. Like fosters (other screen wash is available)

My guess is it didn't last long as the 'off' button didn't work!

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Fair and, indeed, reasonable.

Re 3) does that mean they pour more accurately.? I'm not being pedantic (I have never worked behind a bar) but surely a side effect of having a superb dispense system is that you waste less than the competition - thus getting more per barrel than your independent local? I imagine that could easily be twisted by someone affected by 9) ?

No we're not up t'north where they have metered dispense. I'm on about the cellar and the cooling set up. It is bespoke to all Spoons and is a superb system using a suppressant which leads to a consistent dispense. The pouring is down to the server and their ability to pour. In fairness they do, do a lot of training.

 

[Guinness Boy]

I've worked in pubs in the past . . . Waste/ullage gets measured and documented . . . . On trust as far as I could tell . . . Theres a (( 10%??) bonus if you try hard.

I don't recall where, but have been in one or two unpleasant establishments where a button is pressed to dispense a measured beverage. Like fosters (other screen wash is available)

My guess is it didn't last long as the 'off' button didn't work!

An unlimited stream of beer is generally an aspiration of mine.

An unlimited stream of Fosters is a nightmare I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

 

[dazzer6666]

Well most places are checked randomly, so anywhere unlikely to have a policy to short measure, especially nationwide.

Here's the facts

1. Buying factor leads to cheap price
2. Short life beer does not exist
3. Their dispense system is superb which means the beer is served at the correct temp and good condition.
4. They are NOT briefed on serving short measures
5. It's a haven for undesirables
7. You'll never see me in one
8. It does decent beer generally in poor conditions (properties)
9. Tim is a wanker

10. The food is shite
11. See 9

 

[BN9 BHA]

Can only echo [MENTION=3566]hans kraay fan club[/MENTION], not ALL Spoons can be judged on the shabby, fetid grief-holes in George St, West St and North St.

Wild horses couldn't drag me into that George St one though. All you can see is tattoos and gapped teeth everywhere.

It’s even worse when the husbands and boyfriends join them.

 

[dazzer6666]

It’s even worse when the husbands and boyfriends join them.

 

[Easy 10]

Saying that Tim Martin will sell you a great Eggs Benedict for £2.99 is a bit like saying Katie Hopkins gives the greatest blowjob in the world for 50p.

Whether It's true or not really isn't relevant as anyone with any standards just wouldn't. And if you had no standards and did, you certainly wouldn't tell people on a football forum

I'm aware the default position here for some will be to automatically thumb their nose at ALL things Wetherspoon, primarily because of its odious owner.

I'm not expecting The Savoy, but doesn't mean that I don't have "standards" if I go for a cheap breakfast. Newsflash - the full english there is quite decent as well. I'm sure you'd walk past and sneer, but I'm long enough in the tooth now not to give a flying f*ck at a rolling donut what people think about my choices, whether it be it on here or in the 'real world'. If Spoons were serving up utter slop they wouldn't still be a going concern.

The worst breakfast I ever had was several years ago at a Little Chef. Wonder what happened to them.

 

[Whitechapel]

I can take or leave a ‘spoons. They can fill a valuable role in certain situations but I’m not wild about them.

However I will say one of my favourite thing about them is people who moan about the lack of music/sport/atmosphere. If you need music or sport on to have a good time in a pub then your mates must be proper boring.

 

[Weststander]

I'm aware the default position here for some will be to automatically thumb their nose at ALL things Wetherspoon, primarily because of its odious owner.

I'm not expecting The Savoy, but doesn't mean that I don't have "standards" if I go for a cheap breakfast. Newsflash - the full english there is quite decent as well. I'm sure you'd walk past and sneer, but I'm long enough in the tooth now not to give a flying f*ck at a rolling donut what people think about my choices, whether it be it on here or in the 'real world'. If Spoons were serving up utter slop they wouldn't still be a going concern.

The worst breakfast I ever had was several years ago at a Little Chef. Wonder what happened to them.

Those rubbery sausages

 

[dazzer6666]

I'm aware the default position here for some will be to automatically thumb their nose at ALL things Wetherspoon, primarily because of its odious owner.

I'm not expecting The Savoy, but doesn't mean that I don't have "standards" if I go for a cheap breakfast. Newsflash - the full english there is quite decent as well. I'm sure you'd walk past and sneer, but I'm long enough in the tooth now not to give a flying f*ck at a rolling donut what people think about my choices, whether it be it on here or in the 'real world'. If Spoons were serving up utter slop they wouldn't still be a going concern.

The worst breakfast I ever had was several years ago at a Little Chef. Wonder what happened to them.

Not in my experience….the only thing that the ‘chef’ has to actually cook (ie not simply microwave or lob in a deep fryer) on the full English is the egg, and on the odd occasion I’ve found myself ordering one, it’s ALWAYS been ****ed up.

Cheap beer, usually decent service with the app…….fine……but with the food you get what you pay for. The long-standing ‘Olympic Breakfast’ at Little Chef is still marginally better (although never understood what bit of it was ‘Olympic’ )

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Saying that Tim Martin will sell you a great Eggs Benedict for £2.99 is a bit like saying Katie Hopkins gives the greatest blowjob in the world for 50p.

Whether It's true or not really isn't relevant as anyone with any standards just wouldn't. And if you had no standards and did, you certainly wouldn't tell people on a football forum

Lucky I didn't have a mouthfull of wine when I read that

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Not in my experience….the only thing that the ‘chef’ has to actually cook (ie not simply microwave or lob in a deep fryer) on the full English is the egg, and on the odd occasion I’ve found myself ordering one, it’s ALWAYS been ****ed up.

Cheap beer, usually decent service with the app…….fine……but with the food you get what you pay for. The long-standing ‘Olympic Breakfast’ at Little Chef is still marginally better (although never understood what bit of it was ‘Olympic’ )

The grease?

 

[Weststander]

Not in my experience….the only thing that the ‘chef’ has to actually cook (ie not simply microwave or lob in a deep fryer) on the full English is the egg, and on the odd occasion I’ve found myself ordering one, it’s ALWAYS been ****ed up.

Cheap beer, usually decent service with the app…….fine……but with the food you get what you pay for. The long-standing ‘Olympic Breakfast’ at Little Chef is still marginally better (although never understood what bit of it was ‘Olympic’ )

At least Wetherspoons aren’t dishonest about the microwaved food.

I’ve eaten in more expensive places where some of the food, often desserts, was clearly part of a Brake Bros delivery.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I can take or leave a ‘spoons. They can fill a valuable role in certain situations but I’m wild about them.

However I will say one of my favourite thing about them is people who moan about the lack of music/sport/atmosphere. If you need music or sport on to have a good time in a pub then your mates must be proper boring.

Indeed. The one in Faversham is quite appealing. It's the clientele that ****s it in the head. The only time I went in there (I was about 50 at the ime and my pal 65, so 13 years ago) we were threatened 'outside' by three different and unconnected blokes in the space of half an hour. For some reason (extreme cheapness) it seems to attract the sort of bloke with more Y chromosomes than brain cells

 

[The Clamp]

I'm aware the default position here for some will be to automatically thumb their nose at ALL things Wetherspoon, primarily because of its odious owner.

I'm not expecting The Savoy, but doesn't mean that I don't have "standards" if I go for a cheap breakfast. Newsflash - the full english there is quite decent as well. I'm sure you'd walk past and sneer, but I'm long enough in the tooth now not to give a flying f*ck at a rolling donut what people think about my choices, whether it be it on here or in the 'real world'. If Spoons were serving up utter slop they wouldn't still be a going concern.

The worst breakfast I ever had was several years ago at a Little Chef. Wonder what happened to them.

Agree. I often have a brekkie at Spoons and always enjoy it. Yep, he’s a ****. Get it. But I work hard and get paid **** all, happy to enjoy a cheap breakfast there with mates when I’m enjoying a rare weekend off.
Sometimes we do a more “upmarket” breakfast but if we are off for a long walk or doing early drinks, happily take advantage of a good feed up for a fiver. And will continue to do so.