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dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
Don't speed and you don't have to be worried. You'll also save yourself some money and petrol, which would be pretty handy at the moment, no?

Smart arse. Everyone speeds at some time. It's poor driving that kills.
 




Wienergull

Geht in Ordnung
Jul 10, 2003
473
Berlin Mitte
But there is a growing lobby in Germany to introduce a 120km limit on the Autobahns: Pro Tempolimit (Tempolimit - Klimaschutz - Klimawandel
for those who read German) is an is an alliance “for road safety and climate protection” between environmental groups, the VCD (the German equivalent of the AA), and the Federal police. Apart from cutting CO2 emisisions, they also claim that a 120km limit would save "hundreds" of lives a year, which does suggest not everyone there agrees that driving at ludicrous speed is just as safe as driving sensibly.

Of course, as you point out, the main people who are currently poo-pooing their claims are BMW, Audi and Mercedes...

I've see some the aftermath of some horrendous accidents on the German Autobahns, which I can only put down to excessive speed I think that the "Auffahrunfall" ("driving-into-the-back-of-someone-accident") is far more common there than here - hardly surprising since you usually only get two lanes in each direction outside the urban areas. One thing where they do score over us though is that drivers tend to use their headlights on the autobahn even in bright conditions (it's now mandatory at all times on all roads in Austria) - at least you get some warning of someone coming up behind you at 200 km/hour! I drove to and from Heathrow on Monday morning in appalling conditions and was amazed at the number of people driving without lights.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
I've see some the aftermath of some horrendous accidents on the German Autobahns, which I can only put down to excessive speed I think that the "Auffahrunfall" ("driving-into-the-back-of-someone-accident") is far more common there than here - hardly surprising since you usually only get two lanes in each direction outside the urban areas. One thing where they do score over us though is that drivers tend to use their headlights on the autobahn even in bright conditions (it's now mandatory at all times on all roads in Austria) - at least you get some warning of someone coming up behind you at 200 km/hour! I drove to and from Heathrow on Monday morning in appalling conditions and was amazed at the number of people driving without lights.

The headlights are another example of simple measures that the authorities could introduce to help road safety that will be far more effective than persecuting those who drive a couple of mph over the speed limit.

If you consider how many journeys there are in this country in which speeding occurs, compared to the number of accidents, the figures will be tiny, but it is used by the authorities as it is easy to set up cameras, (taking away police patrols) compared with enforcing the law for other, more dangerous bad habits drivers have developed.
 


Wienergull

Geht in Ordnung
Jul 10, 2003
473
Berlin Mitte
The headlights are another example of simple measures that the authorities could introduce to help road safety that will be far more effective than persecuting those who drive a couple of mph over the speed limit.

If you consider how many journeys there are in this country in which speeding occurs, compared to the number of accidents, the figures will be tiny, but it is used by the authorities as it is easy to set up cameras, (taking away police patrols) compared with enforcing the law for other, more dangerous bad habits drivers have developed.

I agree. Driving in the rain and gloom without lights is tantamount to reckless driving in my view, and a well publicised campaign against it could have a beneficial effect on accident rates. Drivers hogging the middle lane at 60 MPH should also be targeted. Inexecusible though it is, I can sometimes see why others are tempted to undertake.
 


Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
8,297
I agree. Driving in the rain and gloom without lights is tantamount to reckless driving in my view, and a well publicised campaign against it could have a beneficial effect on accident rates. Drivers hogging the middle lane at 60 MPH should also be targeted. Inexecusible though it is, I can sometimes see why others are tempted to undertake.

Other countries (Australia for example) have cameras to detect and fine those who don't drive on the inside lane unless overtaking, whereas here it seems everyone thinks the middle and outer lanes are the only lanes that are open to them.

There are so many simple and fairly cheap alternatives available to the Government and other road authorities if they where truely interested in road safety, instead of generating revenue.
 




e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
Drivers in Germany tend to have better lane discipline than over here, which allows a higher speed limit.

Not to be preachy (I have been known to be over the speed limit) but you tend to get several prominent warnings before a speed camera!
 








Peteinblack

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
4,143
Bath, Somerset.
If you don't want to get caught speeding, then drive within the speed limit!

Why are so many people in this country so bloody selfish and moronic:

'OOOhhhhh, I wanna drive at 100 mph, so f*** everyone else".
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,273
Why is it that people moan when they are caught speeding ? we all know the rules ? its not some hidden or variable rule ? it exists on a permenant basis. On top of that, they even warn you with signs saying "Speed Cameras", how thick do you need to be to fail to understand that ?

I have no sympathy for these morons.... get caught, rack up your points then get banned and sod off...
 


withdeanwombat

Well-known member
Feb 17, 2005
8,731
Somersetshire
Every couple of months this kind of thing crops up,with the speed kings worried they'll get caught,and the regular law abiders saying don't speed and you won't get caught,so there's no thieving bastardry involved.

So,don't speed and you won't get caught,so there's no thieving bastardry involved.

Understand?
 




Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
My grandfather always said treat everyone else on the roads as if they were idiots. This goes some way to proving that.

Even if one feels safe driving at 90-100mph 'when conditions allow', you can't factor in all the other things that could possibly go wrong.

Besides, arrogance surely plays are large role when it comes to accidents. 'I can handle this speed', 'I can squeeze through that gap' etc.
 
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Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
It is people speeding on the motorway that causes those unexplained tailbacks. They speed up behind a car, have to apply the brakes as does everybody else behind the speeder and so on, combine this with fast, random lane changes and we all slam the brakes on causing jams. So the speed kings not only risk lives but slow themselves and everybody up too.
 




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