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steward 433

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Nov 4, 2007
9,512
Brighton
Given the choice the plane is the way to go, we were thinking about going to Scotland in the summer but changed our mind, flights were about £250 for three adults and hiring a car was under £100 for a week. Yes it may be slightly cheaper to drive but with all the hassle that goes with it no thank you.

SLIGHTLY CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There and back in car with days out less than £100 saving £250 straight away!!
 




Even the article says it's about the money.
The cost of servicing the current network of speed cameras must be enormous - sending vans and people round to every site to change film all the time and ending up with a system where, at any one time, most of the cameras aren't actually working.

The new kit will save a fortune in running costs - and the cameras will do their job.

It's not ALL about money, of course. It's about changing drivers' behaviour. An excellent objective.

And if it does raise cash for public services ... so what? It beats council tax, income tax or VAT as a way of raising revenue - it targets ARSEHOLES and gets them to pay. I'd be happy if more ways could be found to screw disproportionate levels of tax out of people with anti-social and criminal tendencies.
 


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
30,734
Bexhill-on-Sea
SLIGHTLY CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There and back in car with days out less than £100 saving £250 straight away!!

You reckon you can drive 1000 miles for under £100.

You car (assuming my maths is correct) will be doing 50 miles to the gallon (unleaded) or 54 miles to the gallon Diesel.
 




steward 433

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Nov 4, 2007
9,512
Brighton
The cost of servicing the current network of speed cameras must be enormous - sending vans and people round to every site to change film all the time and ending up with a system where, at any one time, most of the cameras aren't actually working.

The new kit will save a fortune in running costs - and the cameras will do their job.

It's not ALL about money, of course. It's about changing drivers' behaviour. An excellent objective.

And if it does raise cash for public services ... so what? It beats council tax, income tax or VAT as a way of raising revenue - it targets ARSEHOLES and gets them to pay. I'd be happy if more ways could be found to screw disproportionate levels of tax out of people with anti-social and criminal tendencies.

Agree with most of that but motorways the limit is just too low!! Having been based in Germany and seeing the autobahns!

Agreed if the maintenance costs are lower and this means we can actually get away from trained police officers sitting around catching speeders. Get them back on the beat i say
 














Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,877
Brighton, UK
Never driven in Germany, but how much traffic do they have on the autobahns compared to our motorways
Generally much less. Because they have a lot more autobahns.

Speed limits are surprisingly common too - at junctions and road works for example. They're also very strict on driving behaviour too; they've banned flashing at people (titter) to get them out of your way in the fast lane, for example - something that would make the cretinous Jeremy Clarkson wannabes of this world froth at the mouth and boom vegetative drivel about health and safety gone mad.

Anyway - it makes me chuckle when I read the advice to "check the traffic news and choose your motorway before leaving warning" in my Volkswagen's manual. Choosing between different motorways, the very idea...
 


Skint Gull

New member
Jul 27, 2003
2,980
Watchin the boats go by
They'll NEVER increase the speed limit on Motorways now, EVER! Doesn't matter how much safer cars are now, or how much shorter the stopping distances are, at the end of the day if they ''encouraged' everyone to drive 10mph faster the old climate change, tree huggers would have a field day with all the extra carbon being given off!
 






Marc

New member
Jul 6, 2003
25,267
Quote from the Cheif Super of sussex "speed dose not kill but innapropriate speed does"

Even the article says it's about the money. As for being more visible the one at Buck Barn is grey and hidden no sign on the back

so you believe everything you read then? More speed cameras is GOOD....dont speed and you wont get caught...SIMPLE!
 


Where they have speed limits, the Germans have a curious habit that doesn't seem to have caught on in Britain ... THEY OBEY THEM.

It's a cultural thing. Pedestrians OBEY the little red man who is lit up at a pedestrian crossing. They don't cross, even if there is NO traffic anywhere to be seen.

We like to make and break the rules for ourselves, as the mood takes us.
 




Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,877
Brighton, UK
So its much quieter hence higher limits

Hmm, to a point - I think it's also a bit of an open secret that the powerful German automotive industry does pretty well out of having people knacker their cars far more quickly by doing 140mph for 3-4 hours at a time, so the government is loathe to upset them. It is ironic that the country that pioneered environmentalism has so far turned a blind eye to this unnecessary form of pollution - which, it must be said is also hugely fun to enjoy.
 


steward 433

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Nov 4, 2007
9,512
Brighton
Where they have speed limits, the Germans have a curious habit that doesn't seem to have caught on in Britain ... THEY OBEY THEM.

It's a cultural thing. Pedestrians OBEY the little red man who is lit up at a pedestrian crossing. They don't cross, even if there is NO traffic anywhere to be seen.

To be fair Ed that is a very true observation. Way less pedestrian deaths over there from what i can remember
 


Kukev31

New member
Feb 2, 2005
818
Birmingham
Police are highly trained to drive at those speeds and it is a necessity of the job. A civilian does NOT need to travel that fast. Obviously price is going to be an issue, but trains can be a cheap option if booked in advance with railcards etc.

Possibly because there are far more cars than there used to be and road safety awareness is at a higher level than before.

What with the new rail price structure supposedly making it more "simple". Prices seem to have gone up massively as you don't now get the cheap fares just the standard off peak ones. Could be a massive extra cost when doing away games next year, may have to cut down as a result.
 








glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
If people don't want to get done for speeding, don't exceed the speed limit !

It's quite simple, although I appreciate there a lot of bloody selfish idiots on our roads who don't give a f*** about anyone else once the turn their ignition key.

All part of our "I wanna do anything I want and bollox to everyone else" society.

precisely
 


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