[Albion] There is ZERO chance of SIGNING anyone today.

[Cowfold Seagull]

Of course he's not foolproof in the football world. He took a punt on Poyet, and got it right, took another punt on Hyypia, and got it badly wrong, just about everyone could see Hyypia was clueless and out of his depth and Bloom wanted to back him more and not sack him, before he quit..... Shows a lot of loyalty in how much Bloom wanted to help his man succeed, but also he can get it wrong (as we all do)...... Hughton another resoundingly successful choice, Potter is to soon to judge.

But it's not just the choice of manager, who can only work with what he's given, imho as many have alluded, there's been far to many expensive recruitment fails that haven't improved the squad, and yet Winstanley is still there.

For a club like ours, both recruitment and manager need to work out, either not working well enough and we'll struggle at this level.

My hunch is potter will be here long term regardless of league and Bloom is going for Benhams Brentford model long term, where getting recruitment right is the key.

My last paragraph was said tongue in cheek actually, whilst we may know that Tony is mortal just like the rest of us, there are a fair few on here who seem to think that whatever he does is sure to turn to gold.

 

[B.W.]

Relegation = financial disaster... it IS worth investing in the squad (striker) to minimise the chance of relegation... Tony must surely know this??

 

[Weststander]

Unless upon relegation TB decides that Prem football isn’t achievable at the club and winds back the outlay.

I'd respect that, it's his money. I'd still go every home league match, with no less relish than now, there's more to football than being one of the 20 PL clubs.

Besides, possibly 90% of NSC'ers including myself rate Potter very highly, it would be an interesting journey.

 

[Weststander]

Relegation would be awful for TB, Brighton (The City) and any real supporters who like being in the top league in the world..

TB has a backed this club with an awful lot of money, we get relegated and what’s to say he won’t sell up or stop investing

On our bottom 6 budget we can't stay up indefinitely, our stay is lent to us.

We've seen Villa spending the best part of £150m in 7 months, Newcastle being taking over by Saudi's, Wolves forever signing brilliant internationals with their super agent, and Palace attracting players with wages up to double ours. Making it an ever diminishing pool for the likes of Burnley, Bmuff and Brighton.

What will be will be.


Famous last words, but I think we're all thinking "If only we can stay up this season, the combination of Ashworth and Potter will really improve our squad this summer". Fingers crossed.

 

[peterward]

On our bottom 6 budget we can't stay up indefinitely, our stay is lent to us.

We've seen Villa spending the best part of £150m in 7 months, Newcastle being taking over by Saudi's, Wolves forever signing brilliant internationals with their super agent, and Palace attracting players with wages up to double ours. Making it an ever diminishing pool for the likes of Burnley, Bmuff and Brighton.

What will be will be.

Famous last words, but I think we're all thinking "If only we can stay up this season, the combination of Ashworth and Potter will really improve our squad this summer". Fingers crossed.

Only real difference between us and palace with similar sized fan bases, is we never wrote off our debts and our owner invested his money in 21 century infrastructure. Maybe we could pay £100k a week if we were still in a patched up ramshackle dump, with a supermarket at one end, but the financial outlay of the Amex and Training ground puts is at a wages disadvantage.

 

[Weststander]

Only real difference between us and palace with similar sized fan bases, is we never wrote off our debts and our owner invested his money in 21 century infrastructure. Maybe we could pay £100k a week if we were still in a patched up ramshackle dump, with a supermarket at one end, but the financial outlay of the Amex and Training ground puts is at a wages disadvantage.

I despise them as much as any Albion fan, they've spent wages figures to individual players normally only paid by far bigger clubs. The Wankbissaka transfer fee getting them out of a coming FFP hole. @El Pres's analysis shows an astonishing wages to turnover ratio of 82%. Their wages spend is 8th in the PL despite a decrepit, small ground.

I'm not criticising play-by-the-rules, ever generous Tony. I wouldn't mind a centre forward in on loan though!

 

[Marshy]

On our bottom 6 budget we can't stay up indefinitely, our stay is lent to us.

We've seen Villa spending the best part of £150m in 7 months, Newcastle being taking over by Saudi's, Wolves forever signing brilliant internationals with their super agent, and Palace attracting players with wages up to double ours. Making it an ever diminishing pool for the likes of Burnley, Bmuff and Brighton.

What will be will be.


Famous last words, but I think we're all thinking "If only we can stay up this season, the combination of Ashworth and Potter will really improve our squad this summer". Fingers crossed.

Very well put, my thoughts exactly

 

[forumwayseagull]

Very well put, my thoughts exactly

Question is surely can we stay up based on the powder puff strike force that we have endured with thus far? Having possession is all well and good if you turn it into something like goals and therefore points.(currently we do neither)

 

[BensGrandad]

Wrong about what?

His team selection and there must also be a question mark against his signings. I also think that he has been out thought by the other managers in The Premier and exposed as being wanting tactically..

 

[Weststander]

His team selection and there must also be a question mark against his signings. I also think that he has been out thought by the other managers in The Premier and exposed as being wanting tactically..

"His signings"? I thought it was a team effort including Winstanley and Asworth, with Bloom and Barber having the final say for financial reasons.

Mooy and Maupay, relative to their cost, have been successes shirley? Alzate's been promoted and done brilliantly.

I'm holding to see if we get points in the critical Watford and West Ham games. Even then, I won't crucify Potter. Personally I'm not too enamoured with our signings Summer 2017 to January 2019 - a lack of pace, a lack of power, no Muzza replacement, a RB who struggles to defend, a car load of slow technicians. Potter's lumbered with that.

 

[northstandsteve]

Unbelievable !!!

 

[crookie]

"His signings"? I thought it was a team effort including Winstanley and Asworth, with Bloom and Barber having the final say for financial reasons.

Mooy and Maupay, relative to their cost, have been successes shirley? Alzate's been promoted and done brilliantly.

I'm holding to see if we get points in the critical Watford and West Ham games. Even then, I won't crucify Potter. Personally I'm not too enamoured with our signings Summer 2017 to January 2019 - a lack of pace, a lack of power, no Muzza replacement, a RB who struggles to defend, a car load of slow technicians. Potter's lumbered with that.

Spot on, and sadly the only pacy signing we made has been injured for the majority of his time with us

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Question is surely can we stay up based on the powder puff strike force that we have endured with thus far? Having possession is all well and good if you turn it into something like goals and therefore points.(currently we do neither)

Certain similarities with the Gus era do you not think? After all Gus Poyet also liked his teams to play football, passing the ball out from the back, keeping posession, being patient until opportunities presented themselves.

The big difference now thouighm is that the stakes are far higher, in Gus's day it didn't matter quite so much if things went wrong early on and we took a tumble, now though we stand to lose so much financially if we drop out of the Premier League.

 

[nwgull]

Only real difference between us and palace with similar sized fan bases, is we never wrote off our debts and our owner invested his money in 21 century infrastructure. Maybe we could pay £100k a week if we were still in a patched up ramshackle dump, with a supermarket at one end, but the financial outlay of the Amex and Training ground puts is at a wages disadvantage.

I’m not sure that the Amex and Training ground do put us a wages disadvantage? I suppose it depends on how much TB wants to put in, but my impression was that FFP was the main limiter.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Certain similarities with the Gus era do you not think? After all Gus Poyet also liked his teams to play football, passing the ball out from the back, keeping posession, being patient until opportunities presented themselves.

The big difference now thouighm is that the stakes are far higher, in Gus's day it didn't matter quite so much if things went wrong early on and we took a tumble, now though we stand to lose so much financially if we drop out of the Premier League.

Very much so, though albeit at a lower level, Poyets was more effective IMO.


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[Weststander]

Very much so, though albeit at a lower level, Poyets was more effective IMO.


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In League One definitely, that was an exciting 18 months as we outplayed everyone.

In the Championship, it was a mixed picture, partly due to Poyet’s unforgivable decision to ditch the brilliant Muzza for CMS. Many opponents simply relaxed as our defenders passed the ball amongst themselves, waited, then mugged us on the counter.

 

[eastterracemike]

In League One definitely, that was an exciting 18 months as we outplayed everyone.

In the Championship, it was a mixed picture, partly due to Poyet’s unforgivable decision to ditch the brilliant Muzza for CMS. Many opponents simply relaxed as our defenders passed the ball amongst themselves, waited, then mugged us on the counter.

sounds familiar?

 

[BensGrandad]

In League One definitely, that was an exciting 18 months as we outplayed everyone.

In the Championship, it was a mixed picture, partly due to Poyet’s unforgivable decision to ditch the brilliant Muzza for CMS. Many opponents simply relaxed as our defenders passed the ball amongst themselves, waited, then mugged us on the counter.

Exactly what is happening to us now.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

In League One definitely, that was an exciting 18 months as we outplayed everyone.

In the Championship, it was a mixed picture, partly due to Poyet’s unforgivable decision to ditch the brilliant Muzza for CMS. Many opponents simply relaxed as our defenders passed the ball amongst themselves, waited, then mugged us on the counter.

Not quite how I remember it.
The trouble with Poyet was his mouth.....


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[Weststander]

Not quite how I remember it.
The trouble with Poyet was his mouth.....


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And not liking Muzza. His arrogant side, cost us and boosted a rival.