There are some idiots who support the mighty Seagulls

[patchamalbion]

I still think it sad that grown men find it perfectly OK to rush down steps and knock into children who were in their seats.
Maybe the children should not be at "big" away match and these London matches do seem to attract a fair few idiots but they could see there were children in the front before they charged down.
It's going to take a long time for me to forget the look of horror on a little boy's face.
That is not what supporting the Albion is all about.

yes this maybe true but tha fact is it DOES happen doesn't it! watch the champs/league1 and 2 highlights and watch the fans behind a goal when a goal is scored....a lot will run towards the front and bounce down the steps! i guess its passion or a need to get near to the players i dont know when we scored at Swindon about 100 brighton fans in the open end legged it down to the front,just because it was busier at Charlton it doesnt mean people wont do this when celebrating. guess its just part and parcel of away games

 

[Brovion]

Zoinks

Why do you do that? Edit the quote to twist people's words. That was most emphatically not what he was saying; even a REALLY thick cretin can see there's a difference between taking your kids on an aeroplane or into an office block and expecting the two NOT to collide, and taking them into a sold-out away end of a derby football match and expecting the crowd to behave like people at a Cliff Richard concert.

 

[manilaseagull]

Everyone is ignoring you, and yet you keep trying...stick out it, you may get a rise out of someone, although I doubt it.

Actually geezer I think if you read the whole thread you will find that most people agree an away end at a local derby is not the place for Toddler or young kid.

 

[alan partridge]

Actually geezer I think if you read the whole thread you will find that most people agree an away end at a local derby is not the place for Toddler or young kid.

Which is pathetic.

We all love football. Kids f***ing LOVE football (I know I did). If going to football is all about MEN doing what the f*** they like where they like, and everyone else having to get out their way (the main thrust ((ooer)) of this thread) then that's pretty childish.

Blaming people for taking their kids out to see their team because some people can't handle their drink is saaaa-aaaaad if you ask me.

 

[Freddie Goodwin.]

We did have a load of old boys there yesterday, including me, who were making the best of a day away from the Mrs.

I enjoyed the day with one of my lads and a few beers but I was surprised to see so many oldies totally bladdered at the game. One small guy got chucked out as soon as he got in (they were waiting for him) and i saw another old guy who could barely stand on leaving the loo. not sure if he got in but he had to lean against a barrier outside of the stand.

god i've got a raging thirst now!

 

[manilaseagull]

Which is pathetic.

We all love football. Kids f***ing LOVE football (I know I did). If going to football is all about MEN doing what the f*** they like where they like, and everyone else having to get out their way (the main thrust ((ooer)) of this thread) then that's pretty childish.

Blaming people for taking their kids out to see their team because some people can't handle their drink is saaaa-aaaaad if you ask me.

This all comes down to the OP saying TODDLERS were getting knocked over.

"A toddler is a young child of 1 to 3 years of age. During the toddler stage, the child learns a great deal about social roles, develops motor skills, and first starts to use language."

Toddler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now if parents want to let a TODDLER play around in away end at a high pressure "local" derby....more fool them..

I am not knocking kids going to football, as long as they are old/big enough to enjoy it.

I know parents love football but some sacrifices have to be made in life if you are a parent and not taking TODDLERS to football might just be one of them sacrifices.

 

[Brovion]

Actually geezer I think if you read the whole thread you will find that most people agree an away end at a local derby is not the place for Toddler or young kid.

I've got to say I agree with you 100%. I agree with the thread starter inasmuch as I think there are some 'idiots' who follow Albion away - and they're the ones who expect 3500 football fans to behave like a crowd at a Cliff Richard concert (to use my earlier analogy). You'd think some people hadn't been to an away game before: "Some men had been drinking! And then they very rudely stood up so my little Johnny couldn't see, and when I asked them to sit down they swore at me! Then when we scored they got all excited and jumped about and ran around! Absolutely disgraceful behaviour; it wouldn't be allowed in the Family Stand at Withdean I can tell you!"

However if I can adopt a slightly more concilatory approach - I blame Thatcher. Well, not her specifically but the whole ethos of the 1989 Football Spectators Act which just assumed there was, or ever could be, one type of fan who'd be happy to stay in their (allocated) seat for ninety minutes and just give the occasional hearty cheer. We all want different things from football, some want to sit relatively quietly in comfort and safety (and sobriety), and others want to have a few beers with their mates and let off a bit of steam. The problem comes when the two types have to share a stand (as at Charlton).

Hopefully this will be avoided at Peterborough where there WILL be segregation. The 'sit down quietly' brigade and can go in the seats and the more exuberant fans can go on the terrace.

 

[k2bluesky]

Yep I've met these 40's+, fat balding types at Withdean too, think 'cause they've supported the since Albion way back (the glory years) they have a right to steamroller everyone, didn't see too many of the fat fuckers at Gillingham mind.

 

[The Oldman]

This all comes down to the OP saying TODDLERS were getting knocked over.

"A toddler is a young child of 1 to 3 years of age. During the toddler stage, the child learns a great deal about social roles, develops motor skills, and first starts to use language."

Toddler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Now if parents want to let a TODDLER play around in away end at a high pressure "local" derby....more fool them..

I am not knocking kids going to football, as long as they are old/big enough to enjoy it.

I know parents love football but some sacrifices have to be made in life if you are a parent and not taking TODDLERS to football might just be one of them sacrifices.

Sorry for my incorrect use of the term "Toddlers" as per this definition. The children I was referring to were I guess between 7 and 10. I absolutely agree that no way would I take a 1 to 3 year old to an away match and probably not to peaceful Withdean.

It seems that opinion is divided on this so hopefully this thread will make some question whether it is wise to take children to away matches where there are likely to be unescorted adults in the same area as the children.

I just don't think I have seen so many 40 or 50 year olds so boozed up before an away match.

 

[fataddick]

I just don't think I have seen so many 40 or 50 year olds so boozed up before an away match.

That was commented on by my mates walking towards the ground. There are usually a few drunken away fans staggering up the road from the Antigallican, but they tend to be lads in their early 20s. In your case, there were loads of late 40s blokes staggering in zigzags in that midnight on the way home from the pub way. One short bloke crashed into the wall by the chippy and then took nearly two minutes to turn his body right to head up to the turnstiles. The first five or six times he tried he ended up facing the wall still. Impressive stuff. Quite probably the bloke who they were waiting the other side of the turnstiles to throw out as a small crowd had gathered to watch so OB must have been aware of him.

A lairy pissed teenager stole a three-year old girl's sweets on the train back. I thought he was Albion, but later in the journey it became clear he was one of ours. So whilst a few of your fans may have been weeing in other fans' ears (or whatever, I haven't read the whole thread) in the away end, at least you didn't steal a (checks definition) toddler's sweets...

 

[Lush]

So whilst a few of your fans may have been weeing in other fans' ears (or whatever, I haven't read the whole thread) in the away end, at least you didn't steal a (checks definition) toddler's sweets...

Reminds me of a Millwall away game at the Old Den, in that horrible away corner, being given grief by a bunch of young lads the other side of the pen.

I remember the Albion chants of "back to school tomorrow" but also "we're gonna steal your sweets and lollipops."

 

[Giraffe]

Reminds me of a Millwall away game at the Old Den, in that horrible away corner, being given grief by a bunch of young lads the other side of the pen.

I remember the Albion chants of "back to school tomorrow" but also "we're gonna steal your sweets and lollipops."

I remember that, happy days.

 

[willingdon_seagull]

Whilst i sympathise with the o.p to an extent, this is unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, how attending some football matches can be like. I follow the albion to over half of the away matches and there has been an increase of late of idiots attending. Im all for having some beers and a good time but when you encounter a so called bunch of albion fans like we did on the train back from london bridge it does make you feel ashamed. Instead of waiting for the people to come out of the toilet on the train, one of them got his old man out of started peeing on the floor outside and his moron of a mate duly followed. Their language was also terrible, seemingly unable to string a sentence together without the use of f**k etc every other word. Totally disgraceful and unacceptable behaviour, especially when families with kids on a normal day out to london were in the vicinity. Where are the old bill when you need them? That lot needed to be arrested and totally humiliated. Total scum.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Which is pathetic.

We all love football. Kids f***ing LOVE football (I know I did). If going to football is all about MEN doing what the f*** they like where they like, and everyone else having to get out their way (the main thrust ((ooer)) of this thread) then that's pretty childish.

Blaming people for taking their kids out to see their team because some people can't handle their drink is saaaa-aaaaad if you ask me.

To both you and the thread starter.

I understand that your kids are the focal point of your life, the most important thing about your whole existence. I was not amongst those charging down to the front when we scored but I will defend the right of those who did to do so. I am sure that they, like me, would never intentionally put anyones kids in harms way. Perhaps they should think of the consequences of their actions before running down the aisles, but in the heat of the moment things can get a little exciteable.

Now what a parent needs to remember is this. As much as your kids safety is the be all and end all in your life, that is not the reality of those around you. I personally do not think that a high profile London away game is suitable for any youngster underthe age of 8/9/10, so to take a toddler is just plain stupid! Parents, stop being so selfish and take responsibility for YOUR childs safety and stop trying to offload it onto others.

Yes youngsters are the future of our club but they can suffice with home games in their early years. As for someone earlier saying they took their five day old baby to a game, Jesus, are you really so selfish that you can't miss an Albion match just once?

Oh and finally Mr Partridge, if you don't like the way football fans behave sometimes, make a choice and maybe bugger off and watch the cricket, you might find you enjoy that.