The postal strike [Merged]

[ben andrews' girlfriend]

no the problem is people not knowing all the facts but having an opinion. Try finding out all the strings attached to the deal b4 having an opinion on which you clearly know nothing about.

Well tell us what the problems are - rather than just saying you're on strike because you are!! Why do you think that no-one has any clue about your daily life?

I doubt anyone on here knows the daily life of a nurse / the police / the taxman etc, yet everyone has opinions about them.

It's the way of life that if a service is withdrawn, then you expect there to be some negative opinions on the service in question!

 

[Marty McFly]

As far as I'm aware only four people are striking at Lancing. And my dad's loving the extra sleep.

 

[John Bumlick]

I got used to that a long time ago.
It's not even an opinion. Just a statement of fact.

maybe you wouldn't get so many negative reactions to your posts if you didn't state opinion as fact quite so often.

and here's the obligatory...

...you smelly old biddy.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Try using e-mail and the interweb. Its much faster and you can even pay bills online. Whatever will they think of next............

 

[Drumstick]

There does seem to be abit of postman bashing going on here! Im not happy either waiting for driving licence and bills and new phone as mine died but thats life... not all 'john brynes' fault' a and as for the 'dont be stupid' I thought it was a fair question although a fair answer aswell not as if he said your an idiot f*** off you mess...


lots of love Drumstick!

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

No thanks - paid for a service, I expect it delivered. If we all collected our post from the sorting office, you would be out of a job!

It was a Recorded Delivery that they tried to deliver when Gully was out. If that happens you can go down to the office to pick it up!

If you aren't happy with going down to an office to pick your mail up then beware, if the cuts and destruction of RM goes on, this could be coming in the future.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Nope - your SO right - no one has any idea of what is happening with business's at the moment. As mentioned before - if you dont like the changes, leave. No one is forcing you to work there

What if you happened to get a job on deliveries for Royal Mail because it suited your personal life? For example looking after the kids so your partner can go and work in the afternoon.
How would you like it if your company moved your start times for no reason whatsoever which ruined your personal life?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Nope - your SO right - no one has any idea of what is happening with business's at the moment. As mentioned before - if you dont like the changes, leave. No one is forcing you to work there

He wasn't talking about businesses, he was talking about Royal Mail.
Do you know why the strike is taking place by any chance? Know any of the facts?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

The thing is - i have no idea how it all works - it's got to be sorted somewhere - and i thought the most logical way is for it to be sorted in one location, then sorted in somewhere more local - or am i stupid for thinking that?

Mail comes into mail centres at night, it is sorted on machines.
Then it is driven to the local delivery offices, where the postman/woman sorts in on a frame, they take all the letters off the sorting frame and put them into their bag.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Shouldn't this thread be merged onto the other one about postmen?

 

[British Bulldog]

It's funny how nurses pay increase is 1.5% - yet you dont see us striking - that's really when there'll be a problem in this country!!!

If nurses are prepared to settle for a 1.5% pay rise thats up to them but I certainly would'nt, In fact us signalmen got a 5% pay rise this year as a result of last years strike ballot so maybe it's time nurses followed suit.

 

[m20gull]

What if you happened to get a job on deliveries for Royal Mail because it suited your personal life? For example looking after the kids so your partner can go and work in the afternoon.
How would you like it if your company moved your start times for no reason whatsoever which ruined your personal life?

Businesses change all sorts of things all the time and workers get used to it. For some reason publicly-employed workers seem to have problems with change.

Last year the workforce at my company got 2.5% average pay rise for the fourth year in a row and lost their defined benefit pension scheme and four offices closed. Did we strike? No. did we turn up for work? Yes. Why? Competition. If public services didn't have a monopoly then the strikes wouldn't happen. It's simply bullying because you can do it.

 

[Stat Brother]

Well tell us what the problems are - rather than just saying you're on strike because you are!! Why do you think that no-one has any clue about your daily life?

I doubt anyone on here knows the daily life of a nurse / the police / the taxman etc, yet everyone has opinions about them.

It's the way of life that if a service is withdrawn, then you expect there to be some negative opinions on the service in question!

Myself, John Byrne, Southover, &, Grimsby, all have stated the case, in 9 pages on this thread, & at least 3 other long threads. One of the others may well have another go at this, for you.

Crozier has just been on 5-live, stating RM's case, which sounded all very plausible. Unfortunately it has no relevance to what my MANAGER, not the Union, has been telling us, in our work time learning sessions.
These are scripted from above, and when faced with a barage of questions he has been as dishearted and negative, as we are.

 

[Stat Brother]

Oh, and for the record, I'm somewhat annoyed with the Union re the public perseption of this.
When 2.5% was offered in April our office was more than happy with that, and would have accepted it.
But if we had have done, the strings attached would have cost us considerable more than 2.5%.

The pay increase, as a stand alone offer, has in my opinion, always been acceptable.

 

[Starry]

we just had post and i managed to catch the postie, have been curious why we have had post since this strike began last week. apparently there were only three people who have downed tools at our local office. my postie is a member of the union and said the office made a decision not to strike because they dont agree with the union. couldnt get him to elaborate any further.

our post has been arriving at this time because he has been doing two routes to cover for one who was out. normally he doesnt roll up here until mid afternoon.

 

[Stat Brother]

we just had post and i managed to catch the postie, have been curious why we have had post since this strike began last week. apparently there were only three people who have downed tools at our local office. my postie is a member of the union and said the office made a decision not to strike because they dont agree with the union. couldnt get him to elaborate any further.

our post has been arriving at this time because he has been doing two routes to cover for one who was out. normally he doesnt roll up here until mid afternoon.

Do you live in a rural area, with a small depot, if so somewhere on page 7 or 8 I've explained why this is happening.

 

[Bozza]

Oh, and for the record, I'm somewhat annoyed with the Union re the public perseption of this.
When 2.5% was offered in April our office was more than happy with that, and would have accepted it.
But if we had have done, the strings attached would have cost us considerable more than 2.5%.

The pay increase, as a stand alone offer, has in my opinion, always been acceptable.

Still on the bright side, you have another day of Trisha et al to look forward to. So it's not all bad, eh?

 

[Starry]

Do you live in a rural area, with a small depot, if so somewhere on page 7 or 8 I've explained why this is happening.

yes i do. i only see five pages in this thread but will go back and look. thanks.

 

[John Byrne]

Well tell us what the problems are - rather than just saying you're on strike because you are!! Why do you think that no-one has any clue about your daily life?

I doubt anyone on here knows the daily life of a nurse / the police / the taxman etc, yet everyone has opinions about them.

It's the way of life that if a service is withdrawn, then you expect there to be some negative opinions on the service in question!

Try reading the previous 9 pages of this thread it clearly states the problems as well as the other threads which are going about.

As its been said b4 by SB if you were happy to take 1.5% thats up to you.

A also agree with SB the pay rise isn't the problem, i'm sure 99% of posties would have taken that in April IF there were no strings attached.

RM are trying to get us to except the modernisation,pay and pensions as one deal rather than several.

 

[John Byrne]

Myself, John Byrne, Southover, &, Grimsby, all have stated the case, in 9 pages on this thread, & at least 3 other long threads. One of the others may well have another go at this, for you.

Crozier has just been on 5-live, stating RM's case, which sounded all very plausible. Unfortunately it has no relevance to what my MANAGER, not the Union, has been telling us, in our work time learning sessions.
These are scripted from above, and when faced with a barage of questions he has been as dishearted and negative, as we are.

Exactly...