[Politics] The official match day thread: The UK/EU deal.

[Baldseagull]

This deal won't last long, the Tories gain a lot of funding from the city, the city is screwed with this deal, EU gets to sell it's goods here, but we can no longer sell our major export, financial services.

 

[zefarelly]

Relieved there’s a trade deal. No deal would’ve had very real, negative ramifications for everyone, almost overnight.

Really? no one told us about that

 

[zefarelly]

They all knew what they voted for - or so we are repeated told - so they should be very happy.

Add to that the fact a load of them flogged off their rights/quotas years ago anyway.

 

[WATFORD zero]

All quoted from the Guardian/BBC.

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So still just rumours then.

I'll wait until the deal is published but if Johnson gets a deal whereby we keep absolute control of our fishing waters and get tariff free access to the EU market (including services, the bit that's over 80% of our GDP) whilst not being bound by the EU's rules and regulations and don't have to put a border in the middle of the UK that he promised originally, then he will have played a blinder

I wonder what's keeping him

 

[TomandJerry]

So still just rumours then.

I'll wait until the deal is published but if Johnson gets a deal whereby we keep absolute control of our fishing waters and get tariff free access to the EU market (including services, the bit that's over 80% of our GDP) whilst not being bound by the EU's rules and regulations and don't have to put a border in the middle of the UK that he promised originally, then he will have played a blinder [emoji106]

I wonder what's keeping him

Apparently they are still negotiating about fish.

But the deal is as good as done according to many sources.

Probably waiting on the ERG response.

Labour will back the deal no matter what.

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[studio150]

Well Johnson has got his cake, but it's a stale one that no one wants to eat.

Far too much time and cost spent on getting out and getting ready, and still the higher costs will remain with import/export documentation. All the focus on Fishing which is just 1% of GDP while Services have been forgotten about.

The country will still be poorer going forward.

 

[zefarelly]

This deal won't last long, the Tories gain a lot of funding from the city, the city is screwed with this deal, EU gets to sell it's goods here, but we can no longer sell our major export, financial services.

money laundering and gambling will continue fruitfully regardless.

 

[beorhthelm]

This deal won't last long, the Tories gain a lot of funding from the city, the city is screwed with this deal, EU gets to sell it's goods here, but we can no longer sell our major export, financial services.

i gather they dont intend to cover financial equivalence in the deal, would come early next year. failure to agree puts a lot of European financial institutions at a disadvantage, blocking them from London markets, not the other way round (our authority has already said institutions here can use EU markets). EU want to build capacity for trading and clearing but cant decide where, so unlikely to ever happen. there is an odd scenario where EU traders may have to access derivative markets through New York as some agreement is in place.

 

[Pint of Ale and a Burger]

Personally I think it a disgrace that the fish have not been consulted on which country's fisherman they would rather be caught by.
If they had actually asked the fish their opinion then this issue could have been sorted a long time ago.
I expect the fish to make themselves a lot more difficult to catch now in retaliation of being left out of negotiations.

 

[Questions]

Ok call me dim but where is the mention of bananas and sausages.

 

[W3 BHA]

Not really. It's about our deal with the EU.

I don't want any fighting on this thread.

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How about bitter and vituperous comments? Plenty of those already from narrow minded people who can't accept that other people may have differing views

 

[Questions]

Personally I think it a disgrace that the fish have not been consulted on which country's fisherman they would rather be caught by.
If they had actually asked the fish their opinion then this issue could have been sorted a long time ago.
I expect the fish to make themselves a lot more difficult to catch now in retaliation of being left out of negotiations.

Most cod speak Norwegian or Icelandic and really should not even be in our waters without permission.

 

[sparkie]

My understanding is that the financial services talks are separate....

...and 'no deal' in the trade talks would have totally sunk them.


But a trade deal today paves the way for the banking deal later...

 

[TomandJerry]

How about bitter and vituperous comments? Plenty of those already from narrow minded people who can't accept that other people may have differing views

As long as it doesn't decend into handbags at dawn it's fine. I suppose.

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[Baldseagull]

money laundering and gambling will continue fruitfully regardless.

Euro Clearing is going to go though, something the ECB has tried to tie to Euro countries only, but was ruled against by the ECJ. So where the ECJ once ensured this business could carry on in London, Brexit has ensured it will leave and take up to 80,000 well paid jobs out of the UK.

 

[zefarelly]

Most cod speak Norwegian or Icelandic and really should not even be in our waters without permission.

Questions, That's about the most sensible statement on the matter I've heard.

unlike this cockwomble

 

[WATFORD zero]

My understanding is that the financial services talks are separate....

...and 'no deal' in the trade talks would have totally sunk them.


But a trade deal today paves the way for the banking deal later...

I'd be interested in the source for this as I have been keeping an eye out on the services front and haven't seen anything. Thanks

 

[BBassic]

So, who won?

The EU?
The ERG? Other Brexiteers?

Nobody?

 

[TomandJerry]

So, who won?

The EU?
The ERG? Other Brexiteers?

Nobody?

Moderate Brexit backers have probably won.

The EU haven't done too badly either.

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[BBassic]

Moderate Brexit backers have probably won.

The EU haven't done too badly either.

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As a "Remoaner" it pleases me that the ERG haven't won. If they're pissed off, its as good a result as I could hope for.