Bold Seagull
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Can be contaminated at source, wrongfully tested, misfiled, do you not watch Silent Witness?
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The most convincing case fort the death penalty. ffs.
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Can be contaminated at source, wrongfully tested, misfiled, do you not watch Silent Witness?
Of course we did, we always do to people like you.
5mins-from-amex
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Think you might be twisting things, it goes without saying that a guilty verdict would need passing before any action would be taken.
NickBHAFC18
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There are numerous reports of prisoners living a life of luxury, It's far too common.
My point being that their own view on life, is somewhat different to yours and mine.
5mins-from-amex
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Oh yes the T.V program...
martyn20
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You have both been saying that due to eye witness testimony and DNA it's impossible that they are not gulity?
HawkTheSeagull
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What you have said in the other post (which i cant be bothered to go back and quote) does happen but only in Category C prisons, basically where the inmates havent done "serious" crimes in the eyes of the law, things like theft, criminal damage etc. Murderers and im fairly sure, rapists, wouldnt be filed as Category C, most likely they are A.
5mins-from-amex
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Not once have i said its impossible, dont make things up.
Nope I meant it would be helpful to debate the issue without that red herring.
If somehow you could be offered certain guilt, then your view wouldn't change, so lets move on and away from the 'innocent man syndrome'.
Shegull
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Without wanting to take from the seriousness of the crime - is your real anger because it was a 14 year old BOY. What about say a 15 or 16 year old girl would that make a difference.
And yes the death penalty would be wrong for any crime - murder included. They should of course be left to langrish in a cell for 23 hours a day with no privileges of any kind other than the basic food and clothes that they need. They should be made to slowly suffer for the crime they committed. Unfortunately, it seems that unless you live in the likes of America, that will just never happen. There are too many humanitatirans out there who want to fight for the rights of the accused. Any kind of death penalty would be too quick for them They should be left to rot.
Its very easy to say in anger that he/she should be hung. But lets be honest in most of these cases hanging is too good for them.
martyn20
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You replied to my reply to someone else, I did not mean to 'make anything up' I was clearly talking to both of you
pork pie
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With modern forensic science, CCTV etc., there can be very little doubt. Where there is doubt, what is wrong with waiting like in the USA?
A handful of wrong convictions does not justify not topping any of these people.
NickBHAFC18
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With regards to what I posted earlier in the thread on how soft the prison service Is.
THIS on so many levels.
martyn20
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One wrongful conviction is too many if you have the death penalty isn't it?
JetsetJimbo
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Anyone who bangs on about how easy prisons are should try and spend some time in one. Trust me, they are not places most people would choose to be. On my work-related visits to several prisons, women's and men's, I couldn't leave quickly enough (I found the women's prisons even more depressing: take away the testosterone-fuelled machismo and all you have left is the stench of despair).
Of course there are some people who prefer to be inside than out; the question that poses for me isn't "how can we make prison worse" but "what the hell has happened to that person's life outside to make prison preferable".
People prefer easy "common sense" (surely a contender for the most misused phrase in our language?) to the difficult and uncomfortable process of learning.
Of course there are some people who prefer to be inside than out; the question that poses for me isn't "how can we make prison worse" but "what the hell has happened to that person's life outside to make prison preferable".
People prefer easy "common sense" (surely a contender for the most misused phrase in our language?) to the difficult and uncomfortable process of learning.
I made the mistake of watching Silent Witness.
Bit shit really, anyway once I'd started I stayed with it.
It did highlight an interesting 'eye for an eye' quandary.
Law abiding, upstanding fella's, step daughter is groomed, raped, and readied for prostitution.
Father sees the mobile phone footage of his daughters ordeal, after the case is broken but before arrests.
(Like I said the programme was a bit sh*t)
Anyway, father beats ring leader to death.
What's the ACTUAL sentence?
What's your sentence?
Bit shit really, anyway once I'd started I stayed with it.
It did highlight an interesting 'eye for an eye' quandary.
Law abiding, upstanding fella's, step daughter is groomed, raped, and readied for prostitution.
Father sees the mobile phone footage of his daughters ordeal, after the case is broken but before arrests.
(Like I said the programme was a bit sh*t)
Anyway, father beats ring leader to death.
What's the ACTUAL sentence?
What's your sentence?
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
If we had the death penalty and 10% of the people we killed turned out to innocent is that acceptable? If it's 5% is that acceptable? How about 1% is that acceptable? If just one innocent person killed acceptable if all the rest were guilty?
The worst crime would be to give them the chance to ever do it again, as has happened before
