[Politics] The Labour Government

[armchairclubber]

Most interesting speech from Alan Duncan. Not just the Tories should take note.

Not sure I find the the appointment of Richard Hermer as Attorney General a 'ray of hope' or 'highly encouraging'.
It remains to be seen if he will 'speak truth to power'

Or that Keir Starmer can be inspired to become courageous and principled. He'll need to grow a spine first.
The signs are not good.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Most interesting speech from Alan Duncan. Not just the Tories should take note.

Not sure I find the the appointment of Richard Hermer as Attorney General a 'ray of hope' or 'highly encouraging'.
It remains to be seen if he will 'speak truth to power'

Or that Keir Starmer can be inspired to become courageous and principled. He'll need to grow a spine first.
The signs are not good.

Not sure why you assume Starmer is spineless.

To make sense of your post I need to understand your agenda. Are you someone who regrets the passing of Corbyn, and demands that Starmer boycott Israel and all her doings?

PS I agree with Duncan, his stance and his cause. Shocking stitch up within the Tory party.

But this is a far far cry from the way Starmer treated Corbyn, who was given masses of rope to work with, and huge amounts of time to make a choice (which was, in the end, to hang himself). I would ask what Starmer has been done to upset you, but your slurs about his spine are as wrong as the stitch up of Duncan

As far as Starmer is concerned, he is now the PM. He is the only person in the UK with any traction to effect change. That said, as I have said time and time again, the UK PM has no traction with Bibi. No traction. None. So progress will need more than condemnation from a moral peak.

 

[aolstudios]

Most interesting speech from Alan Duncan. Not just the Tories should take note.

Not sure I find the the appointment of Richard Hermer as Attorney General a 'ray of hope' or 'highly encouraging'.
It remains to be seen if he will 'speak truth to power'

Or that Keir Starmer can be inspired to become courageous and principled. He'll need to grow a spine first.
The signs are not good.

Still with the Jew obsession.
How surprising

 

[A1X]

 

[nicko31]

Such a breath of fresh air after years of divisive language that helped no one

 

[Eeyore]

Say it quietly, because things can go wrong.

But there may be a grown up running the country.

 

[pocketseagull]

Still with the Jew obsession.
How surprising

Again conflating Jews with Israel. You're obsessed with labelling any criticism of Israel as being sinister.

It's this kind of attitude that leads to talk of MPs being taken down.

Israeli diplomat caught on camera plotting to 'take down' UK MPs

Shai Masot is recorded discussing how to discredit MPs in comments described by Israeli embassy as ‘unacceptable’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Peteinblack]

I prefer that to the rhetoric we’ve had for the past 10 years or so, with the hard right of the Tories and UKIP/Reform demonising asylum seekers, calling them “illegal” and blaming them for our crisis in social care and all our NHS and housing problems.

And calling anyone with any decency or a social conscience 'Woke'.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I prefer that to the rhetoric we’ve had for the past 10 years or so, with the hard right of the Tories and UKIP/Reform demonising asylum seekers, calling them “illegal” and blaming them for our crisis in social care and all our NHS and housing problems.

I think you've missed my point.

I agree with the underlying message, yet if Starmer thinks that Macron et al will do us any favours if we smile with entente cordiale in negotiations then he's naive.
As other nations have displayed, the role of a Leader is to get the best for that particular country.
I think we're some way from skipping through the fields, singing and waving our respective hats before plaiting daisies in flowing locks.

 

[armchairclubber]

Yeah, because Jew hate isn't real racism after all.
I can smell you from here

Still with the Jew obsession.
How surprising

Are you accusing me of obsession or hate?

I'm neither. You may like to watch the video again, but I doubt it.

 

[Eeyore]

Still with the Jew obsession.
How surprising

Rather than putting your, sadly usual, trolling emoji on the Alan Duncan speech, would you care to address his points ?

It may be better to leave the thread otherwise as entrenched political perspective with no reasoned argument (defaulting to accusations of racism is not reasoned argument) helps not in good debate.

 

[amexer]

Interesting facts
Labour in the last election received less votes then they received in the Corbyne election.

In 2024 14k of immigrants have arrived by boad
In the same time period and again by boats 29k have arrived in Italy 26k in Spain and 23k in Greece

 

[Bodian]

Interesting facts
Labour in the last election received less votes then they received in the Corbyne election.

In 2024 14k of immigrants have arrived by boad
In the same time period and again by boats 29k have arrived in Italy 26k in Spain and 23k in Greece

Not sure I quite get the connection between boat arrivals and Corbyn/Starmer vote levels?

 

[Chicken Run]

Interesting facts
Labour in the last election received less votes then they received in the Corbyne election.

In 2024 14k of immigrants have arrived by boad
In the same time period and again by boats 29k have arrived in Italy 26k in Spain and 23k in Greece

Two questions,

Who or what is Corbyne (Left wing back?)
And what is a boad?

 

[nicko31]

Interesting facts
Labour in the last election received less votes then they received in the Corbyne election.

In 2024 14k of immigrants have arrived by boad
In the same time period and again by boats 29k have arrived in Italy 26k in Spain and 23k in Greece

Think you didn't your post. And the point you are making is?

 

[amexer]

Not sure I quite get the connection between boat arrivals and Corbyn/Starmer vote levels?

No connection at all. Just 2 facts I read today that I thought were interesting and that surprised me

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Interesting facts
Labour in the last election received less votes then they received in the Corbyne election.

In 2024 14k of immigrants have arrived by boad
In the same time period and again by boats 29k have arrived in Italy 26k in Spain and 23k in Greece

I do hope you are trying to make a connection, and I look forward to the explanation

Here is another fact for you.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Think you didn't your post. And the point you are making is?

Did you read yours?

 

[rogersix]

Did you read yours?

have you got bored of your sock puppet?

 

[rippleman]

Not sure why you assume Starmer is spineless.

If I may. Because he refused to call for a ceasefire in Gaza. It's how he managed to lose seats to pro-Palestinian Independents and indeed ensured the return of your nemesis Jeremy Corbyn to Parliament.

You will never convince me that a man who could stand by and watch thousands of innocent children being slaughtered and not say "stop that" is made of stern stuff.

To make sense of your post I need to understand your agenda. Are you someone who regrets the passing of Corbyn, and demands that Starmer boycott Israel and all her doings?

PS I agree with Duncan, his stance and his cause. Shocking stitch up within the Tory party.

But this is a far far cry from the way Starmer treated Corbyn, who was given masses of rope to work with, and huge amounts of time to make a choice (which was, in the end, to hang himself). I would ask what Starmer has been done to upset you, but your slurs about his spine are as wrong as the stitch up of Duncan

As far as Starmer is concerned, he is now the PM. He is the only person in the UK with any traction to effect change. That said, as I have said time and time again, the UK PM has no traction with Bibi. No traction. None. So progress will need more than condemnation from a moral peak.

Starmer DOES now have traction with "Bibi". He has the power to instruct government departments not to sign another licence to export arms to the extreme right-wing State of Israel. (Don't worry, he won't)