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Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,191
SKS smashing it out of the park today at PMQs.

In response to pathetic whine from posh schools lobbyist...
"Under the last government there were not enough teachers in basic subjects in our State Secondary Schools. THEY were prepared to tolerate that! WE are not!"
 


Moshe Gariani

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2005
12,191
And now a humorous brilliancy to easily put Farage back in his box...
 






Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,391
Sussex by the Sea
SKS smashing it out of the park today at PMQs.

In response to pathetic whine from posh schools lobbyist...
"Under the last government there were not enough teachers in basic subjects in our State Secondary Schools. THEY were prepared to tolerate that! WE are not!"
Didn't rule out Council Tax rises, and failed to clarify the black hole in finances for care.
 






Rdodge30

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2022
583
The Sue Gray gravy train seems to have finally come to a halt. That went well.
I honestly thought Sue Gray was a good appointment and posted as much on NSC. To be honest I’m surprised it ended as it did with her being subjected to internal leaks … and then being replaced by her predecessor.
 


JBizzle

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2010
6,204
Seaford
The Sue Gray gravy train seems to have finally come to a halt. That went well.
To all intents and purposes, she appears to have been extremely well thought of in government (Tory and Labour, alike) until the Sue Gray report, at which point certain circles turned against her (can't see why). So it's a shame that the UK government loses access to a high performing civil servant for reasons unrelated to performance
 


Bry Nylon

Test your smoke alarm
Helpful Moderator
Jul 21, 2003
20,559
Playing snooker
To all intents and purposes, she appears to have been extremely well thought of in government (Tory and Labour, alike) until the Sue Gray report, at which point certain circles turned against her (can't see why). So it's a shame that the UK government loses access to a high performing civil servant for reasons unrelated to performance
For the purposes of balance, the reason the UK government lost access to a high performing civil servant is because she resigned from the Civil Service in March 2023 to take up a job offer to become Chief of Staff to the Leader of the Opposition, Sir Keir Starmer.
 




JBizzle

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2010
6,204
Seaford
For the purposes of balance, the reason the UK government lost access to a high performing civil servant is because she resigned from the Civil Service in March 2023 to take up a job offer to become Chief of Staff to the Leader of the Opposition, Sir Keir Starmer.
That's fair, although I would still say that working for the Leader of the Opposition was still a role in Parliament, but happy to concede the point
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,740
Fiveways
Didn't rule out Council Tax rises, and failed to clarify the black hole in finances for care.
Excellent, bring on those council tax rises. Long overdue -- we've been operating on property valuations made over 30 years ago in which complacent smug old folk have seen multiple rises in the value of their property assets.
And delighted to know that you've been interested in care financing. Perhaps you can share with us your plethora of past posts addressing the Dilnot review since its publication in, oh, 2011 or even other posts related to such things?
 


nevergoagain

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2005
1,520
nowhere near Burgess Hill
Excellent, bring on those council tax rises. Long overdue -- we've been operating on property valuations made over 30 years ago in which complacent smug old folk have seen multiple rises in the value of their property assets.
And delighted to know that you've been interested in care financing. Perhaps you can share with us your plethora of past posts addressing the Dilnot review since its publication in, oh, 2011 or even other posts related to such things?
I'm just waiting for you to finish off with "How do you like them apples".
 




abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,369
Excellent, bring on those council tax rises. Long overdue -- we've been operating on property valuations made over 30 years ago in which complacent smug old folk have seen multiple rises in the value of their property assets.

Totally agree that council tax should rise. But why ‘complacent smug old folk’? A bit childish or bitter or both.

A few people on here forget that we all will be, or at least aspire to be, old one day.
 


Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
19,767
Valley of Hangleton
"Under the last government there were not enough teachers in basic subjects in our State Secondary Schools. THEY were prepared to tolerate that! WE are not!"
Assuming this Government will be around for the next ten years it won’t be the lack of teachers in basic subjects in their two terms that they will worry about, if the UK birth rate drop continues its current trajectory it will be the lack of secondary school aged pupils to teach!!


 




Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,740
Fiveways
Totally agree that council tax should rise. But why ‘complacent smug old folk’? A bit childish or bitter or both.

A few people on here forget that we all will be, or at least aspire to be, old one day.
I'm not bitter, I may be childish but, against that point, don't worry I'm closing in on your ranks.
 




abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,369
14 voluntary, community and social enterprise organisations across Sussex have calculated the additional costs of the NI increases will total £1,827,000.

I am trustee of a charity that supports hundreds of people with learning difficulties across the county (Downs , Autism etc). For our organisation alone the cost will be £176,000. After years of cuts to social care, there is no fat left to cut and many (most?) charities providing public services will not survive this. This will be nothing short of disastrous for the people we support and little better for the thousands who will lose their jobs. I am not at all sure our charity will survive but if it does it will only be through severe cuts to the support we give to some of the most vulnerable people in our society.

There are still people on here determined to defend the government on their budget. Could those people please tell me now how this is 'OK' and how this fits with a party (which I stupidly supported) that promised to be different to the uncaring Tories?

I REALLY want to know :mad:
 


BLOCK F

Well-known member
Feb 26, 2009
6,718
Excellent, bring on those council tax rises. Long overdue -- we've been operating on property valuations made over 30 years ago in which complacent smug old folk have seen multiple rises in the value of their property assets.
And delighted to know that you've been interested in care financing. Perhaps you can share with us your plethora of past posts addressing the Dilnot review since its publication in, oh, 2011 or even other posts related to such thing
Many so called ‘smug old folk ‘ like me and my wife take no pleasure in seeing the huge rise in the value/cost of property. We, like many other ‘old smugs’ have children who are unable to get on the property ladder and are paying exorbitant rents for very modest flats. This does not make us happy or smug.
Oh well, I suppose the value of many ‘smugs’ properties will, at least, go towards paying for care home fees should they require this in the future and they won’t then be a burden on the state!
 
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