[Politics] The Labour Government

[KZNSeagull]

that’s because they probably lost their voices shouting at last nights football on tv

They could have waved or nodded but did nothing. Shameful behaviour.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Hmmmm .... have you been living in a cave the last couple of years ?

I think he's the bloke who posted yesterday something about the return (as in second coming) of Farage to parliament. As in he was in parliament in the past and has been away for a while. You know, the 're' but in return. Like revision, where you look at something again. Re-elect, where (you can guess the rest).

Either a comedy spoof account channeling Alf Garnett or very, very thick

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

that’s because they probably lost their voices shouting at last nights football on tv

Is it possible to lose one's voice due to 120 minutes of tutting?

 

[A mex eyecan]

They could have waved or nodded but did nothing. Shameful behaviour.

so could it be deduced that 45% of dog owners who go for early morning walks are disgruntled Tories? Or, 45% of dog owners who go for early morning walks are elated Labour voters who have nothing further to say as they’ve won.

 

[Zeberdi]

UKIP polled 3.8 million votes in 2015 so it’s not exactly a standing start just a few thousand more rebranding.

Five million votes, two seats: smaller parties demand a change in the rules

Ukip won 3.8m votes, the Greens 1.1m; but they won only one MP each in the election. In Margate, there is growing support for electoral reform

www.theguardian.com

I agree.

I’d go further and say Reform will eventually implode like Mosely, Grffin’s BNP and UKIP before them.

As soon as the Conservatives regroup and make themselves an effective opposition that reflects a broad spectrum of right-right of centre again (without the infighting and chaos) there will be no need for Farage’s brand of far right toxicity.

George Galloway lasted only 5 minutes as we knew he would.

This is not the continent, we have never had a fascist or even far right government in Britain and we were never occupied by nazis. Our particular historical roots of the socialism/labour movement and conservatism, has provided enough plurality to embrace a spectrum of political ideology without the reactionary rise of popular far right extremism that we have seen in Europe.

 

[Perkino]

Billions of pounds of unfunded tax cuts. Farage fell apart and got angry every time he was pressed on this matter. His tax cuts were Liz Truss x10.

They appeal to those who don't/won't question what's put before them, and refuse to listen to facts. And also those who like the racist undertones of his words.

Indeed, how incredibly concerning.

 

[A mex eyecan]

Is it possible to lose one's voice due to 120 minutes of tutting?

that’s a very good point and has successfully trashed my first theory

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

that’s a very good point and has successfully trashed my first theory

Perhaps some of your neighbours are upset that Labour has cancelled the Rwanda 'plan'. Perhaps they are mostly Arsenal supporters and were looking forward to their holiday, imagining somehow that the Tories would subsidize the cost?

This is possible, given some of the other things that some of the people apparently believe these days

 

[Zeberdi]

There’s an excellent article from the Atlantic Council on what differences we are likely to see in Labour’s position cf to Tories on a number of policy issues:

Experts react: Labour is back. Here's what to expect from the new UK government.

Our experts outlined incoming Prime Minister Keir Starmer's priorities and the party's vision for the UK's role in the world.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

The article highlights that boosting growth will need to be prioritised before any restructuring investment is made but economic stability is a major theme here before that can happen. Starmer‘s landslide win over the chaotic shreds of the last Government has already been met with a favourable response in the markets which shows that confidence in UK investments are high after a post-period of volatility since Brexit/Truss/Johnson. Compared to the uncertainty in the rest of Europe, especially the success of far right groups and also cf to the States and the prospect of a Trump Presidency increases, Britain’s economy, post-election looks like it has has a strong and stable base moving forward and a good start if we are going to improve our trade deals but it still remains questionable how Starmer will change much without raising taxes to pay for it.

Another good read here

UK stands out for its stability after election landslide, say investors

Calm in Britain’s financial markets following Labour victory contrasts with turmoil elsewhere in Europe

www.ft.com

 

[Pevenseagull]

I like the idea of a ‘ Corruption Czar’


The graft and blatant corruption of the past 14 years should be punished.
I will be very disappointed if this is either watered down or dropped completely.





I’m not holding my breath though.

I think if you are in public office and are considering doing something that you think needs to be checked over by a corruption czar you're probably in the wrong job. Maybe go to work for a private equity company.

 

[KZNSeagull]

so could it be deduced that 45% of dog owners who go for early morning walks are disgruntled Tories? Or, 45% of dog owners who go for early morning walks are elated Labour voters who have nothing further to say as they’ve won.

No, they are just rude, miserable (probably southern) bastards. So much for Labour returning standards to public life.

 

[BBassic]

I think he's the bloke who posted yesterday something about the return (as in second coming) of Farage to parliament. As in he was in parliament in the past and has been away for a while. You know, the 're' but in return. Like revision, where you look at something again. Re-elect, where (you can guess the rest).

Either a comedy spoof account channeling Alf Garnett or very, very thick

I will bet an entire English pound that he thinks because Farage was an MEP that his election as an MP constitutes a 'return'.

Which, of course, it doesn't. Because the European Parliament and our Parliament are entirely separate entities.

In fact, I'm so confident of this being the case I will up my wager to TWO whole English pounds.

 

[abc]

It’s reassuring how businesss leaders and global investors have quickly come out and stated a willingness to work with Labour. Their policies may be a little unknown (even to themselves) but the feeling that’s there’s now some grown ups running the country is already having an impact.
That’s a good start.

 

[beorhthelm]

... Britain’s economy, post-election looks like it has has a strong and stable base moving forward and a good start if we are going to improve our trade deals but it still remains questionable how Starmer will change much without raising taxes to pay for it.

thought the economy was in crisis/on it's knees etc. good to hear in 3 days we've already established a stong and stable base.

markets and business are happy with Labour because, as far as they've said, not much is going to change.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I see Tony Blair has started banging the drum for ID cards again. Hopefully he'll get ignored on expense grounds alone. He seems to think it'll help with immigration somehow.

Any excuse for him to bang that drum, wanted them for full time vaccine passports as well

 

[abc]

thought the economy was in crisis/on it's knees etc. good to hear in 3 days we've already established a stong and stable base.

markets and business are happy with Labour because, as far as they've said, not much is going to change.

The sentiment is that Labour offer political and economic policy stability after the wayward years of Brexit, Truss etc and a willingness to work with business rather than against it. No one is suggesting that we are suddenly out of the woods but business leaders and investors are indicating that they are willing to work with the new government.

That is a genuine change in itself and the only way that positive change across the whole economy can be achieved.

 

[rogersix]

South Basildon to Reform GET IN THERE!

do you not bother with facts at all?

 

[beorhthelm]

The sentiment is that Labour offer political and economic policy stability after the wayward years of Brexit, Truss etc and a willingness to work with business rather than against it. No one is suggesting that we are suddenly out of the woods but business leaders and investors are indicating that they are willing to work with the new government.

That is a genuine change in itself and the only way that positive change across the whole economy can be achieved.

well someone did just suggest the economy is ok. expecting a lot more of changing perceptions, we'll stop hearing about "crisis" and "x is on it's knees", shift to how things are stable, then in the autumn signs of recovery. we stop talking things down and talk them up, things are better.

 

[vegster]

It’s reassuring how businesss leaders and global investors have quickly come out and stated a willingness to work with Labour. Their policies may be a little unknown (even to themselves) but the feeling that’s there’s now some grown ups running the country is already having an impact.
That’s a good start.

It's a two way street, Labour are keen to talk to business, leaders in Scotland,NI and Wales and local mayor's too. The grown ups are back in charge and I fully expect to see compromise and solutions across many issues.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Tata Steel in Port Talbot appears to be one of the first things they are going to try and get a better solution on. Was spoken about on Kuenesberg this morning too.

Tata steel: Labour working on better Port Talbot deal, says MP

Sir Chris Bryant says Tata must not make "sudden moves" that prevent unpicking "a very bad deal".

www.bbc.co.uk