[Politics] The General Election Thread

[Is it PotG?]

Whilst there's you kicking a man for having a medical condition. Bravo!!!

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Medical condition? Are his ears wonky, resulting in lopsided spectacles?

 

[Lever]

Medical condition? Are his ears wonky, resulting in lopsided spectacles?

The point is, that's about the best dig Tory acolytes can come up with. Not really a good case to support Johnson's PM bid though...... typically uncharitable.

 

[Bakero]

point is there is such a policy, not the merits of it.
yes houses should be lived in. how about people that are long term ill, out of country or waiting for sale, awaiting planning? there seems an assumption that people sit on a valuable housing stock doing nothing, when there is likely good reason for a property not occupied for such a long time. there is property being bought as investment, they will probably be occupied except some edge cases. do we want policy driven by a few hundred flats? we need proper housing policy.

What is the policy? I see this came up at conference but I'm not sure about the specifics.

I do think you're underestimating the problem. From the BBC:

More than 11,000 homes across the UK have been empty for 10 years or more, research by the Liberal Democrats has found.

The figures, from 276 local councils, show there are more than 216,000 homes across the country which have been empty for six months or more.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42536418

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The point is, that's about the best dig Tory acolytes can come up with. Not really a good case to support Johnson's PM bid though...... typically uncharitable.

It is just plain weird, to make a thing of appearances, when their own man is five or six stone overweight (yet still manages to find suits too big for him) with hair like a badly drawn cartoon character.

 

[Is it PotG?]

The point is, that's about the best dig Tory acolytes can come up with. Not really a good case to support Johnson's PM bid though...... typically uncharitable.

My glasses manage to remain horizontal whilst presenting, it's not difficult.

 

[Yoda]

Medical condition? Are his ears wonky, resulting in lopsided spectacles?

I see you couldn't be bothered to read the link someone else gave you. I'll give it to you again:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/19/behind-corbyns-wonky-glasses-11184617/

He is being treated for a muscle weakness in his right eye and using corrective glasses as part of the treatment.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I see you couldn't be bothered to read the link someone else gave you. I'll give it to you again:
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/19/behind-corbyns-wonky-glasses-11184617/

He is being treated for a muscle weakness in his right eye and using corrective glasses as part of the treatment.

Don't be so obtuse.

Does his condition mean he cannot keep them straight?

I have seen many photos of JC where they are straight, and I would have thought at such an important occasion that all possible measures would be taken for perfection.

 

[daveinplzen]

Worried about how somebody is wearing glasses, and not how a Tory **** cant open his mouth without lying.
Brilliant.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

It would be absolutely BONKERS if Corbyn was to come out and say how he would vote/campaign in a second referendum. I'm genuinely STAGGERED people want to know or think he should declare it.

Have we learnt nothing from the last few years?

Let him go to the EU and negotiate a deal he can work with. Put it to the people, stay completely neutral and then work with the outcome. It's so simple. He still would have every need to negotiate the best deal he can as it may well be what he needs to run with.

Why would he declare his stance Imagine if his 'side' 'lost'. What would people demand? that's right. Resignation and then and then and then.....

The thing that is most troubling is the inability or unwillingness of "impartial" commentators to be able to see this. Labour's position is absolutely crystal clear so why are they pretending it isn't? You don't have to agree with it of course but to pretend you don't understand it?

 

[Seasider78]

Yesterday's debate was depressing. It is a sorry state of affairs when the two people presented before us are the best this country has to offer. 3 if you count the presenter. Boris is totally untrustworthy and Jeremy doesn't have the capability to capitalize on it.

Very well summed up Boris really is not that bright and Labour should be exposing and making him look like the buffoon he is. As well intentioned as Jeremy is I think he has missed a real opportunity to expose Boris for what he is.

There was one brief moment he had Boris on the ropes with selling out the NHS to the Americans but it was one blow amongst a lot of light jabs when he had a chance to knock Boris out cold

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Pretty much how I see it.

The stance surely should be:

1. Go and negotiate the very best POSSIBLE deal. Not a fantasy, but the best achievable agreement.
2. Put that deal to a second vote.
3. As an individual voter, he should then vote for whichever of, the agreed deal or Remain, he feels is the best outcome for the country. He shouldn't be expected to know which of those he would vote for, when one of the two options is as yet undefined.

What is the alternative? Are his opponents suggesting that he should vote for one pre-determined thing, even if the outcome of negotiations is such that he feels voting the other way was in the nation's interest?

Bizarre.

I agree. People are asking him to take a position on a deal he hasn't even started negotiating. How could anyone do that? It is quite ludicrous and the kerfuffle about it underscores the fact that the Tories and their media friends support Brexit in the way I support the Albion - it's just a game, you support your team irrespective of what's being place in front of you. And as an optional extra you really really hate the other side.

It's a bit more important than that.

 

[Yoda]

Don't be so obtuse.

Does his condition mean he cannot keep them straight?

I have seen many photos of JC where they are straight, and I would have thought at such an important occasion that all possible measures would be taken for perfection.

If one lens is far heavier than the other, yes it does.

There was a lot more glare coming off one lens and blurriness looking through it so could've been wearing a pair with an extra prism in the lens causing the extra weight on that side.

Oh! If anything, you're the one being obtuse in being insensitive.

 

[Betfair Bozo]

Pretty much how I see it.

The stance surely should be:

1. Go and negotiate the very best POSSIBLE deal. Not a fantasy, but the best achievable agreement.
2. Put that deal to a second vote.
3. As an individual voter, he should then vote for whichever of, the agreed deal or Remain, he feels is the best outcome for the country. He shouldn't be expected to know which of those he would vote for, when one of the two options is as yet undefined.

What is the alternative? Are his opponents suggesting that he should vote for one pre-determined thing, even if the outcome of negotiations is such that he feels voting the other way was in the nation's interest?

Bizarre.

They want him to "show his hand" now, you know the exact thing they said would be suicide if they did it...

 

[Ernest]

2nd Tory candidate suspended this week for anti semitism , but it's only Labour who are anti semitic

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[Igzilla]

The thought of any world leader taking him seriously is a tad concerning.

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I'll see you, and raise you a

 

[theonlymikey]

As per usual, You Gov weren't exactly totally forthcoming with the polling results from the debate.

The full tables from the YouGov poll last night on the ITV leaders’ debate are now available on its website here (pdf).

Laurence Janta-Lipinksi, a polling specialist, thinks the raw data reflect well on Jeremy Corbyn.

Laurence Janta-Lipinski
(@jantalipinski)
Looking through the full tables from the debate poll last night, pretty clear (once you ignore the headline finding) that Corbyn had the better debatehttps://t.co/rj6OTpeO2I

November 20, 2019
Laurence Janta-Lipinski
(@jantalipinski)
Nearly 6 in 10 ppl who are undecided gave it to Corbyn as well as those who weren’t sure who would win the debate. More also say Corbyn did well than Boris. Given the sample was politically representative, last night clearly better for Corbyn than Johnson whilst JC so far behind

November 20, 2019
Laurence Janta-Lipinski
(@jantalipinski)
Favourite number is the 48% it 2017 Conservative voters who thought Corbyn did well. Labour’s only hope (in my opinion) is that Corbyn’s ratings improve. The more time he spends opposite Johnson, the more likely that is

November 20, 2019

 

[DFL JCL]

Very well summed up Boris really is not that bright and Labour should be exposing and making him look like the buffoon he is. As well intentioned as Jeremy is I think he has missed a real opportunity to expose Boris for what he is.

There was one brief moment he had Boris on the ropes with selling out the NHS to the Americans but it was one blow amongst a lot of light jabs when he had a chance to knock Boris out cold

When asked about integrity, Jezza didn't even mention the fact he prorogued parliament to avoid scrutiny. Boris plays everything like a game and it leaves him wide open to criticism. Yet when presented it as an open goal Jezza just waffled on about something else unrelated. I really don't think this election is going to change anything.

 

[theonlymikey]

2nd Tory candidate suspended this week for anti semitism , but it's only Labour who are anti semitic

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The Tories are institutionally antisemitic.

 

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[theonlymikey]

Boris Johnson on Teesside today. Feck off.

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