[Politics] The General Election Thread

[Greavsey]

Well said.

It is astonishing how ignorant, selfish and narrow minded so many people are. The Tories should be unelectable and wiped out based on their record and behaviour over recent years yet barring a miracle, it looks like we’ve got another 5 years of this disgrace.

It is unbelievable what they are getting away with. Or rather have the balls to ride out. They seem completely immune to social media witch hunts, that rightly or wrongly, have forced people in the public eye to resign their positions in the not too distant past. What JRM said yesterday for example seems to have just slidden away. Fat Boris lying to the Queen - forgotten about. Russian electoral interference - just say nothing and it will go away...

Worrying times.

 

[Ernest]

So the Tories campaign is off to a cracking start...

Rees Mogg says he wouldn't have died if he was at Grenfell as he had common sense , backed up by fellow Tory Andrew Bridgen who said Mogg was too clever to have listened to the fire brigade's advice
Welsh Secretary Alun Cairns lied when he said he knew nothing about his adviser and Welsh assembly candidate wrecking a rape trial
Tories put out a video of Keir Starmer doctored to show a false narrative and get called out for it by Piers Morgan
Tory candidate in Wales says all benefit claimants should be put down
DWP adverts about Universal Credit banned for being misleading

 

[hans kraay fan club]

How much money was lost to on-line fraud last year then,Mr.Smuggles?

The discrepancy between your perceived and actual intellect, is genuinely one of the widest I have ever come across.

Impressive

 

[theonlymikey]

According to some, if we really wanted to save the planet, Barry shouldn't be driving a car at all, so to hell with the worn brake pads!

Touché

 

[Ernest]

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Making Theresa May's campaign look brilliant

 

[Guinness Boy]

So a few trips to Brum and Which magazine from 2018 makes you an expert?
HS2 is a London-centric national project,and nothing whatsoever to do with regional development.I use Chiltern and West Midlands services on a regular basis,having given up selfishly polluting the environment using the roads some years ago,and don't experience any problems.As for homeless drug addicts,most of whom appear to be Scottish in the city centre,do you really think Birmingham is worse than Brighton/Hastings,despite it's far larger population?

Who mentioned Which magazine?

At least once a week every week for two years, sometimes staying two or three nights either in the Jewellery Quarter, near to New St or in the Clayton Hotel near Moor St. I suggest you walk up from the Clayton to Colmore and count the number of people off their heads on Spice - not to mention the rats crossing the road from the building site. Maybe stop in the Square Peg with your footballer mates?

So, you take the cheapest services that take the longest and you do it out of peak hours. At that point anywhere in the country has a decent service. No one in the South East is moaning about the quality of trains from Hove to Worthing at 2pm on a Wednesday

However, the rush hour and faster services - for which the poor old punter is charged more - are shocking. Like I said New St is the fourth worst station in the country for punctuality.

As for homeless stats there are approximately 15,000 people classed as homeless in and around Birmingham (source) representing about one in 73. The figure is far smaller in Brighton, though as a proportion it's about the same - one in 70. The big difference is that the homeless numbers in Brighton are falling (source). To be honest, though, neither of these figures reflects well on a central government that has been in charge for over nine years in one form or another. Britain's homeless problem as a whole is a disgrace.

 

[nicko31]

i dont believe Johnson ever made that claim? i dont champion brexit, gave up long ago, and this is about parties policy. sensible policies on environment are possible and not all debt is bad if sustainable, offering measurable returns or efficiency improvements for the country.

Johnson did say it in his speech the debt was eliminated, but such is the sh1t flying around it just gets forgotten and most of the print media wouldn't never publish it anyway.

Just for clarification, are still pro Brexit?

 

[Chicken Run]

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Making Theresa May's campaign look brilliant

You wait until the next PM takes over [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Bozza]

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Making Theresa May's campaign look brilliant

...and yet Labour will finish second to them. They must be truly shit.

 

[Bold Seagull]

...and yet Labour will finish second to them. They must be truly shit.

Or the electorate truly stupid.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Point of order!

There's actually no way [MENTION=14132]Two Professors[/MENTION] would have shared it.

He'd have shared a SCREENSHOT of it.

Can't be too careful, after all

#gremlins

How much money was lost to on-line fraud last year then,Mr.Smuggles?

My internet security tells me not to,and the ITK people on here are always telling us to trust experts.Some sites will only give you very basic access to their sites from a non-HTTPS site.They might as well be talking in Pushtu as far as I'm concerned,but then I didn't go to university.

Look at your address bar, you moron

 

[nicko31]

...and yet Labour will finish second to them. They must be truly shit.

Indeed all the time they have JC. Put Benn in and they'd be out of sight...

 

[Bozza]

Or the electorate truly stupid.

It never seems to be Labour/Corbyn's fault, it's always someone else's. A stupid country is a nice get-out.

 

[Guinness Boy]

but then I didn't go to university.

No shit, Sherlock......

 

[Bozza]

Indeed all the time they have JC. Put Benn in and they'd be out of sight...

If only they'd listened to [MENTION=1416]Ernest[/MENTION] - he bravely called Corbyn out for what he is some time ago...

I wouldn't vote for Corbyn in any further leadership election, there needs to be a leader who has authority and can actually lead. The experiment has failed at great costs to people's lives

 

[Bold Seagull]

It never seems to be Labour/Corbyn's fault, it's always someone else's. A stupid country is a nice get-out.

The election hasn't happened yet!

 

[Ernest]

Interesting that the betting now shows 'no overall majority' as favourite , flip flopping favourites as up to yesterday a Tory majority was favourite

 

[Guinness Boy]

Indeed all the time they have JC. Put Benn in and they'd be out of sight...

Benn definitely, Starmer possibly and even Peter Kyle looks far better leadership quality than JC.

This really is an impossible election for me in terms of wanting a party or parties to win. Tories on their own with large majority equals hard Brexit and Singapore-On-Sea. Labour majority equals JC in charge, something that has me wanting to hide behind the sofa. Lib Dems (won't get in anyway but...) and the likely outcome isn't so much revoking Article 50 as another decade of Remain v Leave with Farage even more empowered and angry. And a hung parliament? More of the mess we have today.

I'm back to my normal view of selecting the local candidate who best represents my views and that's Kyle. Had JC had his way and deselected him I'd have voted for Robert Nemeth. However, my vote for Kyle is not a vote for Corbyn and my vote for Nemeth would not have been a vote for Boris. These are simply two decent, hardworking guys who want to make Hove and Portslade better and happen to have ideologically different ways of thinking they'll achieve it.

If I was in Brighton Pav I'd vote Lucas all day long - so I guess in hindsight I'm a Labour/Green/Tory who doesn't want either prospective PM nor a hung parliament. It's no wonder people turn off politics.

 

[BLOCK F]

You wait until the next PM takes over [emoji23][emoji23]

I just don't know whom that may be.
I reckon a hung parliament is probably on the way.

 

[Bozza]

The election hasn't happened yet!

Interesting that the betting now shows 'no overall majority' as favourite , flip flopping favourites as up to yesterday a Tory majority was favourite

I'm certainly not claiming an overall Tory majority is in any way likely, but the market on most seats has Labour getting absolutely trounced right now...

Conservative - 1.18 (between 1/5 and 1/6)
Labour - 7.2 (over 6/1)