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[Politics] The General Election Thread

How are you voting?

  • Conservative and Unionist Party

    Votes: 176 32.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 146 26.8%
  • Liberal Democrat’s

    Votes: 139 25.5%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 44 8.1%
  • Independent Candidate

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Monster Raving Looney Party

    Votes: 7 1.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Total voters
    545
  • Poll closed .








Sirnormangall

Well-known member
Sep 21, 2017
3,178
Arguing with yourself?

You wouldn't have confused sign ons, would you ???

Would you be so kind as to name these Labour front-benchers together with evidence of their anti-semitism. (And I'm guessing if it is 'full', there will be a significant number of them).

It's just that I haven't seen any evidence, but if it's out there, it should be easy to quote or link, thanks :thumbsup:

I would assume, but don’t know, that the Chief Rabbi’s comments today on anti-semitism in the Labour Party would have been based on evidence.
 








Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
11,839
Crawley
Don't disagree but a labour front bench and party full of anti semites is, at the very very least, no better

You need to read a little beyond the headlines.
 


Seagull27

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2011
3,368
Bristol
Which is why Corbyn and Labour really piss me off. They are asking many of the right questions and making the right points but their 'solutions' and narratives are economic lunacy, division, hatred and racism and will make those that need the most help even worse off. If there was ever a time we needed an economically and politically intelligent alternative who could unite the people, it was now. The Conservatives will win this election entirely because Labour will have lost it. Labour will have failed the very people they purport to want to help. Corbyn, Momentum et al should be deeply ashamed and the rest of us deeply angry.
Have to say I agree. The situation we're in is in no small part down to the complete lack of leadership in the Labour party, they've dithered on their Brexit policy for 3 years before arriving at a solution that no one is going to get excited about. In 2017 it could have been a good policy, but now the country is so divided everyone knows how they would vote in a 2nd referendum and there's literally no point in him renegotiating a deal even if Labour did win.

They've dithered on anti-semitism so much they're attracting accusations of racism - not just from the Tories, but key figures in the Jewish community. This is the Labour party, and people are more worried about inherent racism than in the Tory party. Unbelievable.

They throw in a load of policies that in another election a fair few people might get behind, but no one will take any notice because this is election is all about Brexit. Which is in itself depressing when there are much more important things like climate change and the state of the NHS that should be at the forefront of discussion.

The writing is on the wall already, the Tories will win a majority. It's unavoidable and thoroughly depressing.

And the worst part is, I'm still going to have to ****ing vote for them (Labour) because the Lib Dems have once again shown themselves to be hopeless and voting Green (in my constituency) risks splitting the vote and giving it to the Tories.
 
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abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,389
Arguing with yourself?

You wouldn't have confused sign ons, would you ???

Would you be so kind as to name these Labour front-benchers together with evidence of their anti-semitism. (And I'm guessing if it is 'full', there will be a significant number of them).

It's just that I haven't seen any evidence, but if it's out there, it should be easy to quote or link, thanks :thumbsup:

Seriously? Here’s today’s link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50552068

But no, wasn’t confused. Rather a case of taking issue with my own post!
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I hope Dominic Raab loses his seat. There is a possibility of it.
The way he spoke to Harry Dunn's father this evening, when he tried to get to speak to him, was contemptuous at the very least.
Those poor parents have been left high & dry without any help from the Foreign Office. It was shown on ITV news.
 


abc

Well-known member
Jan 6, 2007
1,389
You need to read a little beyond the headlines.

Probably what so many said throughout Europe during the 1930s and beyond. For goodness sake, argue the good points about labour but don’t defend anti semitism. Defence and denial is what gives oxygen to the haters. I’m sure you’re that’s not what you intend
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
I had to laugh at that silly bint Morgan this morning ( not Piers) promising thousands more nurses but a huge percentage were nurses they were hoping to convince not to leave.
"That's not new nurses is it"
"Yes it is, we have made the numbers clear"
There was no way she was going to admit it.
Tories yet again treating the public like they are total idiots.
People will vote for them so maybe they have a point.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,106
Faversham
Just watched the documentary on Theranos.

Boris is a second rate version of Elizabeth Holmes.

Elizabetha Holmes is a psychopyathic fantasist and liar.

Be careful out there, people.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,876
You need to read a little beyond the headlines.

I do read behind the headlines and Labour does have a problem I'm afraid, but it's a problem of the far left.

There has been a slow creep (in a far few) where a line has been crossed from standing up against the extremes of the Government of Israel over to questioning the every existence of the State of Israel.

Throw in a few conspiracy theories about Jewish influence and Capitalism (even 9/11), throw in a few deliberate provocative remarks about the holocaust and apartheid and they are where they are.

Does this exist in the Cabinet ? Of course not, does this exist within their wider MPs ? I doubt it.

The problem is that a number of MPs (and Corbyn) whilst campaigning for the wholly admirable cause of the Palestinians have associated (and defended) some very very dubious figures with some very dubious views.

Of course racism (particular anti Muslim) exists in the Conservative party, but that is down to pure ignorance. The Labour problem is far more complicated than that, more ideological and they simply haven't done enough to stamp it out.
 






nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,574
Gods country fortnightly




WATFORD zero

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 10, 2003
27,767
Seriously? Here’s today’s link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50552068

But no, wasn’t confused. Rather a case of taking issue with my own post!

I'm sorry, but I've read that article and nowhere in that article does it give evidence of Labour front benchers being anti-semitic ? I have seen lots of articles about the problems that Labour has with anti-semitism including a few examples of some of the half a million members saying or doing anti-semitic things.

But that wasn't what you said. You said

Don't disagree but a labour front bench and party full of anti semites is, at the very very least, no better

to which I asked

Would you be so kind as to name these Labour front-benchers together with evidence of their anti-semitism. (And I'm guessing if it is 'full', there will be a significant number of them).

It's just that I haven't seen any evidence, but if it's out there, it should be easy to quote or link, thanks :thumbsup:

So, i'll try again. If the Labour front benches are full of ant-semites could you please name some anti-semite Labour front benchers with examples of their anti-semitic words or actions. If your statement that the 'front benches are full' is true, it really shouldn't be that hard :shrug:
 
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