[Politics] The General Election Thread

[beorhthelm]

The money is in the pockets of CEOs and executives (and therefore shareholders) who have stoked the pay disparity between worker and executives from a ratio of 1-20 or 30 in the 70s to 1 to 200 to 300 now. Irrespective of your political view, most people - morally - should say this is excessive. When Warren Buffet says his assistant pays more tax than he does (because his earnings come from investments and shareholder dividends - not wages) then this might be a clue where Labour's cross-hairs are aimed. Unfortunately, the Conservatives cannot go anywhere near this narrative because that's their heartland and Thatcher and Reagan where the facilitators of such excess.

US executives? bit of a stretch even for Corbyn. in the UK taxes are paid on share options and dividends.

 

[Weststander]

You've spent the last 3 years deriding the IFS and their Brexit forecasts, and now you're quoting them. Brilliant, truly brilliant.

I didn’t know that, shocking if true.

The IFS are brilliant, really intelligent people, apolitical, factual, using knowledge of the effects of past tax moves in nations to understand how total tax take reacts to rate hikes and cuts).

(Although a NSC Corbynista once told me they’re a right wing think tank ).

 

[beorhthelm]

"How will Labour raise the other £1.1Trn" some schmuck somewhere who believed Saj Javid lies - 2019.

you mock, however £130bn in that article is £650bn over a parliament, plus £400bn National Transformation fund and you are a whisker away. thats before counting the £250bn National Investment Bank. it'll all be fine, spending so much so quickly, nothing could go wrong.

 

[JC Footy Genius]

You've spent the last 3 years deriding the IFS and their Brexit forecasts, and now you're quoting them. Brilliant, truly brilliant.

I'm quoting what was said in the article to highlight how it was being misrepresented on here. Corbyn and Labour are also happy to quote the IFS when attacking the government so I'm sure they will accept their analysis of the Labour manifesto ....

 

[Bodian]

I'm quoting what was said in the article to highlight how it was being misrepresented on here. Corbyn and Labour are also happy to quote the IFS when attacking the government so I'm sure they will accept their analysis of the Labour manifesto ....

It's not actually being misrepresented though is it. The point of showing that graph on here was that even if we increased our spending, it would still be relatively low compared to elsewhere. As another poster sai - it just shows how low our spending has become, to our detriment.

 

[beorhthelm]

spotted Irish article about retrofitting homes for reduced carbon emissions, estimated cost €50bn! they have about 2 million homes compared to 27 million in UK.

 

[lawros left foot]

Maureen Lipman and her other half are a very good friend of my Dad and step mum. Nice lady by all accounts, but everybody avoids her when it comes to politics because she is absolutely HEAD MENTAL. Don't ever start her on Israel, but it seems she's gone doolally here too.

Didn’t Maureen Lipman leave Labour in 2014 because of Ed Millibands stance in Israel and Palestine?

Happy Maureen Lipman Leaving Labour Day.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Looking forward to Labour being taken to the cleaners , cataclysmic reaction awaits them
Regards
DF

 

[Is it PotG?]

Didn’t Maureen Lipman leave Labour in 2014 because of Ed Millibands stance in Israel and Palestine?

Happy Maureen Lipman Leaving Labour Day.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/29/maureen-lipman-support-labour

 

[Bold Seagull]

I'm quoting what was said in the article to highlight how it was being misrepresented on here. Corbyn and Labour are also happy to quote the IFS when attacking the government so I'm sure they will accept their analysis of the Labour manifesto ....

That graph you posted is bullshit as well, some fake photoshopped BS by Guido Fawkes, not actually published by the IFS. Lies like the rest of the Tories. What a joke.

 

[CHAPPERS]

So much vitriol directed towards Labour's costed spending plans when the Tories are are actively pushing for a hard Brexit, which is going to cost the public purse HUGE amounts of money, and this is celebrated.

Odd.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Ignore now proved to be fake news

 

[Is it PotG?]

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"Sources tell me a BBC producer forced him to not shave"

Proof? Evidence?

 

[Bold Seagull]

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Worth putting these to together given the attempts at misinformation on recent posts...

 

[Thunder Bolt]

"Sources tell me a BBC producer forced him to not shave"

Proof? Evidence?

I've already deleted it and admitted it was fake news. You were very quick to quote me.

 

[Is it PotG?]

I've already deleted it and admitted it was fake news. You were very quick to quote me.

Fake news must be dealt with sharply, and completely.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Fake news must be dealt with sharply, and completely.

Exactly; which is what I did.

I'm big enough to admit it, when I get it wrong.

 

[Simster]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/29/maureen-lipman-support-labour

She is insanely pro-Israel, one of those irritating Jewish people who conflate complaining about Israeli policy with anti-semitism.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Exactly; which is what I did.

I'm big enough to admit it, when I get it wrong.

He did post a few hours ago.

 

[Is it PotG?]

She is insanely pro-Israel, one of those irritating Jewish people who conflate complaining about Israeli policy with anti-semitism.

So she has no basis to her argument then?