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[Politics] The General Election Thread
- Thread starter crodonilson
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Yep. It makes me think it's a soundbite and, in reality, what they mean is "nationalise telecoms".
Even in towns and cities it can sometimes be very difficult - there is of course council orders that a road/area can't have any more works unless it's an emergency ( sometimes for up to 3 years ) and then there is the dreaded wayleave. I'll be interested in hearing how Corbyn and co plan to get around these ( of course I know they don't care about the technicalities nor understand them ) ! Oh, and let's throw in the listed building issues. Silly me, and lack of exchange capacity - I assume they plan to build many new exchanges. An utterly absurd policy !!!!!!!!!!
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Each party has a policy for Broadband for all - so they're all utterly absurd? The difference is how to pay for it. In a private led system, companies are never going to put the infrastructure down for smaller villages and enclaves that won't see a profit returned. So all parties in promising this are committing public funds one way or another, whether nationalising or subsidising. Not sure how listed buildings cannot be dealt with, it is afterall no different to a telephone cable and listed buildings have been able to have those.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
I dont think exchange capacity will be an issue in general (it may be in some rural UAXs but they usually have space to expand).
As for absurdity, spot on. Much better to impose a USO on other telcos.
I don't have an issue with decent broadband for all - it's just none of the parties understand the technicalities of achieving it ( nor the costs ). I've had immense issues getting fibre into listed buildings - there are so many restrictions sometimes that it's impossible to get a cable from the street to the building. Equally, getting circuits into central London buildings can also be a major pain in the backside. It really isn't as simple as putting up a set of Christmas lights.
Two completely unelectable parties with the same idea, who’d have thunk it!
pasty
A different kind of pasty
No idea where my vote is going this time. But then I think Lloyd Russell-Moyle is pretty much a shoe-in in Brighton Kemptown anyway. Last election he got a 19.2% swing with 58.3% share of the vote to get just under a 10K majority. And with a 56.4% remain vote, I don't think the Conservative candidate has a hope in hell.
Thankfully I don’t have to that ginger **** on my polling card.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
considering how small a proportion of urban areas are covered by cable and how many dark spots for ADSL, that "relatively easy" is still difficult and expensive to do.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,014
it similar to "build more houses" promise they all like to make. simple to do if we can get the regulations and objections out of the way.
usually before listing and regulations came in to being. and we could just use that telephone cable, except the promise is for fibre to the premises, though to the cabinet would deliver adequate service for most the population.
dingodan
New member
- Feb 16, 2011
- 10,080
You know why your broadband gets faster all the time?
Because there is a free market and competition.
As soon as Sky can offer you 10GB download speeds, Virgin work to offer you 20GB. Then sky work to go faster. & Cheaper.
A government monopoly in the provision of broadband will result in quality decreasing, cost increasing, and fewer and fewer people having access.
The government cannot provide products and services only the market place can.
Today, if your broadband breaks down you phone your supplier and they want to keep your business, so solving your problem matters to them.
Good luck when you have to phone the government's broadband department because you have a problem.
Labour are ridiculous.
Because there is a free market and competition.
As soon as Sky can offer you 10GB download speeds, Virgin work to offer you 20GB. Then sky work to go faster. & Cheaper.
A government monopoly in the provision of broadband will result in quality decreasing, cost increasing, and fewer and fewer people having access.
The government cannot provide products and services only the market place can.
Today, if your broadband breaks down you phone your supplier and they want to keep your business, so solving your problem matters to them.
Good luck when you have to phone the government's broadband department because you have a problem.
Labour are ridiculous.
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
- 13,054
I do but I don't know what his plans are locally at all.
I've had three (I think) letters / pamphlets through my door from him none of which talk about any local issues. It's just Brexit.
Which is pretty indicative of this entire election.
Come polling day it won't be shoddy A&E waiting times or free broadband for all or maybe something something 'the Russians' that cause people to put their X in a box. It'll be Brexit and nothing else.
Ah - 2000 plus posts .................. so, has anyone managed to change anyone's mind yet? Just asking ...............
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Relatively easy compared with supplying duct and fibre through 20 miles of granite :-D
Tom Hark Preston Park
Will Post For Cash
- Jul 6, 2003
- 72,321
Marvellous scenes at the Labour live Q&A from Lancaster:
Nicola from The Mirror: 'Mr Corbyn, Mr McDonnell, if you nationalise broadband, will you stop people watching porn?'
Upon which Mr Corbyn sidles sideways and whispers urgently in Mr McDonnell's ear
Nicola from The Mirror: 'Mr Corbyn, Mr McDonnell, if you nationalise broadband, will you stop people watching porn?'
Upon which Mr Corbyn sidles sideways and whispers urgently in Mr McDonnell's ear
highflyer
Well-known member
- Jan 21, 2016
- 2,553
Is that a bad thing though? I don't want just one person coming up with an entire policy agenda. Obviously there needs to be some leadership but that includes listening to people and taking on ideas. As you know, i'm broadly a supporter of the vision and policy platform of Labour, but that is based in part on a level of trust in those that I know are involved in developing the agenda and policy ideas (and the process). Not all of them, but a lot of them.
The people that Johnson has brought in around him scare the sh*t out of me.
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