The end of Rangers?

[Simster]

its the same as the SPL it has to go to a vote, i can see the point, without rangers and Celtic then there is not interest in Scottish football at all, and a number of clubs will go belly up.

The SFA are in a horrible situation, its not just rangers at stake but in a sense Scottish football

I make Stranraer FC about right:

Official Stranraer F.C.

It's perfectly simple - parachuting a new Rangers into a position anywhere above the bottom tier would damage the integrity of the game. And yes, financially the league will suffer in the short term, but should any club be reliant on the finances raised by another club (a club they have no control over) in planning for their own club?

This is the problem with the Old Firm domination up there. The fact that this parachuting is being entertained shows how utterly dependent on the Old Firm the game in Scotland has grown to be. It's a real shame when you consider the game in the 80s with Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and Hearts all significantly challenging the traditional dominance of the OF - until Rangers started spending millions on English players.

 

[withdeanwombat]

On the voting U turn of the Premier League teams,I think that is a distinct possibility if there is a prospect of no Rangers in the SPL in the season after next.Clubs can vent their anger,talk of footballing integrity and bite the bullet for one campaign,but beyond that it'll get very costly indeed,so though the SPL clubs don't like them they want them back.Rangers in Div One would be a novelty,sell out games at every away game,up yours big crowds at home.

Meanwhile,were I a betting sort of person,I'd have two bob each way on Celtic to retain their title next season.

 

[Hillian1]

Something to do with "break off payments" whatever the hell they are. Green was on earlier saying the payments would effectively end and impact on all other Scottish Clubs finances.

Can't someone think of a way to bugger Celtic, without those two clubs Scottish football would become competitive again.

 

[SurreySeagulls]

What really pees me off is Charles Green harping on about how damaging this is for Scottish football. Well lets' see who has damaged football north of the border - oh it is Rangers FC spending money hand over fist and cheating the tax payer out of millions of pounds. If it were Motherwell say for instance there would be no quibble about sending them down to the 3rd division and starting again and this should be the case for Rangers. Mr Green is really living in a fantasy land and trying to blame all and sundry except Rangers as they are the poor souls in this unsavoury mess.

If I had my way I would send them down to the junior leagues and lets see how they get on against the might of St Rochs' FC

 

[Gritt23]

What really pees me off is Charles Green harping on about how damaging this is for Scottish football. Well lets' see who has damaged football north of the border - oh it is Rangers FC spending money hand over fist and cheating the tax payer out of millions of pounds. If it were Motherwell say for instance there would be no quibble about sending them down to the 3rd division and starting again and this should be the case for Rangers. Mr Green is really living in a fantasy land and trying to blame all and sundry except Rangers as they are the poor souls in this unsavoury mess.

If I had my way I would send them down to the junior leagues and lets see how they get on against the might of St Rochs' FC

Indeed. So much for the "damage" that starting at the bottom will do for Scottish Football, what about the damage that is done by the missing tax money from Rangers, Pompey etc. Cut the money of the local authorities, so that local amenities are hit, and maybe the average fan of these clubs will see the damage their club has done.

 

[Tony Towner's Fridge]

Something to do with "break off payments" whatever the hell they are. Green was on earlier saying the payments would effectively end and impact on all other Scottish Clubs finances.

Can't someone think of a way to bugger Celtic, without those two clubs Scottish football would become competitive again.

I think you will find that what has happened to Rangers is the catalyst to bugger Celtic. Doesn't need anything else.

TNBA

TTF

 

[Simster]

Raith director: | Rangers | Sport | STV

Absolutely disgraceful, especially the last bit in the video.

 

[The Antikythera Mechanism]

Raith director: | Rangers | Sport | STV

Absolutely disgraceful, especially the last bit in the video.

There should be a secret ballot, not a show of hands, then the threat of a SPL2 could not be carried through.

 

[Falkor]

One thing i not seen mentioned Ranger wont supmit there accounts of the old company due to dodgy dealings in it, so they will not be aloud to compete in Europe for 4 years what ever league they go in. The SFL might let some things go by but UEFA wont

 

[Gullys Cats]

I make Stranraer FC about right:

Official Stranraer F.C.

It's perfectly simple - parachuting a new Rangers into a position anywhere above the bottom tier would damage the integrity of the game. And yes, financially the league will suffer in the short term, but should any club be reliant on the finances raised by another club (a club they have no control over) in planning for their own club?

This is the problem with the Old Firm domination up there. The fact that this parachuting is being entertained shows how utterly dependent on the Old Firm the game in Scotland has grown to be. It's a real shame when you consider the game in the 80s with Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and Hearts all significantly challenging the traditional dominance of the OF - until Rangers started spending millions on English players.

Nail on the head.

 

[driller]

Rangers become a pub team!

SCOTTISH football chiefs are forcing Rangers to start again as a pub team following their financial difficulties.

Rangers will relocate to a flat-roofed council estate boozer as their new base of operations, and recruit players from the local tower blocks by enticing them out of the stairwells with a football covered in smack.

Early scouting trips have uncovered a promising 19-year-old who will train for eight hours at a time and is equipped with a ferociously tenacious tackle so long as he’s given a bottle of Buckfast and a tube of Uhu at the end of the day.

SFA spokesman Tom Logan said: “This could be a fresh new start for the club – if it turns out they have a better quiz team than their football side that could be the direction they end up heading in.

“Given that most of the kids in Glasgow University are called things like Tara and Gideon rather than Janey or Wee Fucka that’s doubtful but, y’know, dare to dream.”

Rangers’ new pub, The Red Hand & Luther, was bought with the proceeds of selling off Ibrox to a consortium of Celtic fans who intend to turn it into the world’s largest urinal. The pub’s manager, Bampot, will take control of the club’s day to day affairs after ousting Ally McCoist with the help of a pool cue.

Their first fixture of the new season will be against The Pope’s Head, a rival pub located 50 feet from their new home across a stretch of road the United Nations have deemed the most dangerous piece of tarmac outside of Afghanistan.

Logan added: “Rangers could soon be back amongst the big names of Scottish football provided they get themselves a really good physio and some comprehensive fire insurance.”

 

[withdeanwombat]

I see that late night phone calls have been taking place between SPL clubs re the Rangers vote.There could be a decision to put off the vote until the SFL clubs have decided which division NewcoRangers should be in.Presumably,if this is Division3,then the SPL clubs could allow NewcoRangers into the SPL as footballing integrity comes with a price?

 

[Box of Frogs]

If Rangers get demoted to the 3rd division then Sky are going to pull the plug on the next lot of TV money due to be paid to the SPL teams in August which I believe is about £650k each (except Celtic).

If this money doesn't get paid to those clubs then three or four of them are in very real danger of going into liquidation.

The cold hard fact of the matter is, rightly or wrongly, demoting Rangers to Div 3 will hurt other clubs in Scotland far more than it will hurt them.

 

[Gritt23]

Credit to the Rangers fans though who have voted 75% in favour of taking their place in Div 3 rather than Div 1. I'm guessing from that they feel suitably ashamed of what their club has done, and are accepting that they must take their rightful punishment.

 

[Gritt23]

I have a slight problem with this being referred to as being "demoted." The old club, the iold company has gone, it's heading into liquidation. End.

The debate is where this new company that has been created can start in the pyramid. Do they start at the bottom, or are they allowed some special treatment due to the level of support and tv money that will presumably come with them. The debate is really how much we allow money to bend the rules, and morals of teh game.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Maybe Sky could do the right thing and honour the contracts that would be given if Ranges were in the SPL?

 

[Hillian1]

I guess it all boils down to Sky then. Will they see it as an opportunity to develop Scottish Football into something other than a 2 horse race or will they just see one horse now and think no-one will bother watching as the winner is pre-determined.

Whatever way you look at it, Sky has got Scottish Football by the testicles.

 

[Simster]

Credit to the Rangers fans though who have voted 75% in favour of taking their place in Div 3 rather than Div 1. I'm guessing from that they feel suitably ashamed of what their club has done, and are accepting that they must take their rightful punishment.

I think most of them are more bothered about directing their ire towards Murray and Whyte than feeling ashamed on behalf of their club.

And as for the 75% vote, it seemed to me from reading followfollow.com (before I was banned for expressing an opinon that div 1 should not even be an option - I kid you not) that they are more concerned that Scottish football is seen to cut off its nose to spite its face than any sense of what is right and proper. i.e. they'd rather see the other SPL clubs suffer a massive loss of income and start at the bottom than accept being relegated by just one division and seeing finances relatively unaffected. I'm sure there are plenty of principled people among that 75%, however - followfollow is a crap, bigotted site IMO.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Maybe Sky could do the right thing and honour the contracts that would be given if Ranges were in the SPL?

That would allow them to start the new Rangers in the right place - Div 3.

 

[Gritt23]

Maybe Sky could do the right thing and honour the contracts that would be given if Ranges were in the SPL?

That would be a very popular move with fans who want to see the right thing done here. I think the goodwill they would receive from a move like that would outweigh the cost.

Sky may even get lucky and find that the SPL is a little more interesting without Rangers. Just imagine if Celtic get too casual, thinking they've already walked away with it all, and have a bad season. One or other of the big two have had bad seasons in the past and dropped close to the rest of the pack, but wow, if it happens this season, or someone starts like Hearts did under George Burley and Sky may have a classic on their hands.