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Once again you are unable to counter any of the factual statements I've posted and resort to smear and innuendo. No wonder you seem to be such a fan of the The Daily Mail.
Factual statements ? Hearsay at best , you've come out with some bollox about having to wait for the polish authorities to ok his application to join the belgian resistance , apart from the fact he was a belgian national, are you seriously trying to say that was the case ? do me a favour.
 






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Fantastic - I find myself attracted to your posts I live reading words that I can almost hear the sneer that you would have used if you had said it, whilst for others almost feel the spittle that would emanate from you when you get worked up.

It doesn't however mean I agree with you.

Foolish doesn't even begin to describe your efforts later on in this thread. Wilson, Thatcher etc, you denounce one while defending the other.
Yes I do, one was a grown man , the other an 18 year old girl, whilst there are plenty of women serving in afghanistan , circumstances were entirely different then.
 


ROSM

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Didn't 18 year old girls go into the land army or munitions factories? Or only if they weren't too busy inventing the recipe for soft scoop ice cream?
 


cunning fergus

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In 1943 the Holocaust was in full swing and was stopped by the Red Army two years later. He was born on 07 January 1924 and was 16 when he fled Belgium. He volunteered to join the Belgian Resistance in 1942 and joined the Royal Navy in 1943 aged 19. Fancy a debate about what at least one post-war British PM did rather than enlist ?


Yes it was, and yes they did.

He was 16 when he fled Belgium having heard the country of his birth was conscripting 16 year olds to fight the Germans. I note a sympathetic author of this piece in the Guardian puts the story thus:

“Ralph heard a radio announcement that all boys of his age - he was now 16 - were to be conscripted into the Belgian army, currently being shot to pieces a few miles away. This was not his idea of useful political sacrifice; he decided he would walk to France.”

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/28/schools.labour

Regarding the resistance do you mean he volunteered via SOE or the Belgian Govt in exile? As a native speaking Belgian I would have thought he would have been ideal undercover resistance material for either..............although given his prominantly developing Marxist views and evident contempt for England and the English (at that time) I suppose he may have conveyed a somewhat un-trustworthy attitude during his selection process, if there was one................what do you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Special_Operations_Executive_operations_in_World_War_II#Belgium

Agreed, he was 19 and a half when he joined the RN. He had been in Britain over 3 years by then (of which 2 years had been spent studying politics at the LSE in Cambridge) all the while it was locked into a life or death struggle with the Germans.

I was only focusing on Ralph, but if we are playing the political family shame poker I will see your post War British PM with a recent ex Home and Foreign Secretary’s Dad and raise you his brother.
 




Guinness Boy

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I've just tried reading your blog, I DO question your whole reason for being on this planet.

I'm thinking of starting a tumblr called "Right Wing Chelsea Fans Frothing at the Mouth". I assume I can count on your support?
 








Goldstone Rapper

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A charter for press regulation drawn up by three politicians in an office over pizza. The fact that politicians can decide what the press can print. That is the most sinister part of all. The day the daily telegraph printed those expense claims by our leaders was the day democracy ended. They have revenge at last!
 


Dave the OAP

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I can't believe you are having a go at one of huddersfield's most famous sons, Harold Wilson. I am OUTRAGED and APPALLED!
 




spring hall convert

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Nov 3, 2009
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A charter for press regulation drawn up by three politicians in an office over pizza. The fact that politicians can decide what the press can print. That is the most sinister part of all. The day the daily telegraph printed those expense claims by our leaders was the day democracy ended. They have revenge at last!

It's really worrying isn't it. I don't take anything Paul Dacre says particularly seriously but there are clearly some fundamental issues about future press freedom but equally, it is clear that some sections of the print press have acted and continues to act irresponsibly and with a lack of integrity.

Which means I'm in a sticky situation, I strongly believe in press freedom but really don't like much of how the press go about their business in this country.

And then I'm going to hypocritically say that my instinct is to be supportive of the BBC.

In short this whole issue makes my brain hurt.
 










luppers

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Aug 10, 2008
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Ha ha, the Daily Mail is some how a serious political paper! Don't make me laugh. The only serious thing about the Daily Mail is the amount of paper and ink required to print the sh*t rag! What people see is a paper that they can't trust because all it wants to do is throw sh*t about, because that's all it has in abundance is sh*t. A culture of sh*t reporting, sh*t research, sh*t for brains columnists, and about as much positivity as a dying rat drowning in a load of sh*t in the bottom of a sewer.

The right, left and centre is rightly appalled at them. The right, because they are associated with the paper and desparately trying to distance themselves from it, the centre because of the extreme views of it, and the left - well that's obvious. Probably the only person happy with the Mail is Nigel Farage, and that says all you need to know!

Only just looked at this thread. I am happy reading the Mail if it means that I can speak a whole sentence without using foul language!
 










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