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Meade's Ball

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Jul 7, 2003
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that gives away a lot. its easy to say I dont mind having a Chinese neighbour. Thats great of you. If only it was that simple.

Do you not give a f*** that there are three white kids in your kids primary school and they are subjected to daily racism? That the majority of your neighbours dont speak English?

It must be fantastic to be so well adjusted and modern but lets face it I bet you never have these principles tested to the extreme.


You sound like an unfunny Bill Hicks.
 






Thats a fair enought point, and its all down to opinion. Does it still mean we need to get rid of Britishness?

Some people have a steriotypical view of a Brtion, well lets face it, its the English people hate, but this seems OK with people.


Generalization like that is just astoundingly wrong.
The BNP are looking to generalize, but don't think we should be generalized about?

SOME people don't like the English. Those people are generalizing.
Some people don't like the French, Arabs, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Serbs Croats Kurds Gypsies Africans..... and the list goes ever on.
If they are faced with meeting anyone of them, they might not even know what category they fit into until someone tells them!

Do the BNP like Gurkhas by any chance??
 


Stoo82

GEEZUS!
Jul 8, 2008
7,530
Hove
Generalization like that is just astoundingly wrong.
The BNP are looking to generalize, but don't think we should be generalized about?

SOME people don't like the English. Those people are generalizing.
Some people don't like the French, Arabs, Jews, Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Serbs Croats Kurds Gypsies Africans..... and the list goes ever on.
If they are faced with meeting anyone of them, they might not even know what category they fit into until someone tells them!

and i agree with you.
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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I will tell you El thats quite funny when you think of the state of the economy under labour. Could the BNP be much worse. I don't think so.

Yet you don't back up your arguments with any facts. Prior to 2008 we have had 15 years of economic growth under both Labour and Conservative governments, which is unprecedented compared to the rest of the twentieth century.

I'm an economist, I look at numbers rather than sloganeering.

As for my next door neighbour, step forward Mr Ishi Patel, a top bloke. He doesn't speak English very well, but he is a decent human being. 80% of the people I teach don't have English as a first language, it's their problem not mine as far as I am concerned.
 






coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
Yet you don't back up your arguments with any facts. Prior to 2008 we have had 15 years of economic growth under both Labour and Conservative governments, which is unprecedented compared to the rest of the twentieth century.

I'm an economist, I look at numbers rather than sloganeering.

As for my next door neighbour, step forward Mr Ishi Patel, a top bloke. He doesn't speak English very well, but he is a decent human being. 80% of the people I teach don't have English as a first language, it's their problem not mine as far as I am concerned.

I know I am making a mistake picking a fight with an Economist :laugh: But that growth was built on the back of credit was it not. I am no genius when it comes to economics. Just have an o level in the subject but it was always doomed to failure
 








Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
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I'm so sorry for your Asian friend who feels that way.;)

So am I, they are a law abiding citizen who pays their taxes and makes a fairly decent contribution to British society and the community where we live, I consider it to be a privelage to call them a friend...if only a larger percentage of the white indigenous population followed their lead the country would be a far better place in which to live.
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
"...the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question."

Good use of the public purse. :wozza:
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
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The BNP have grown during a time of relative prosperity. Hardly feeding off hard times


Today we have .5% interest rates and deflation, seven years ago we had 7% rate and 2-3% inflation

Which was the hard times and when was the prosperity because 98% of the population seem to have missed the prosperity bit!
 
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Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
7,552
In the field
Hopefully this alleged surge in support for the BNP will be a kick up the arse for the mainstream parties to get their act together and realise that their position is not sacrisanct (sp), especially in times of recession and expenses crisis.
 


El Presidente

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I know I am making a mistake picking a fight with an Economist :laugh: But that growth was built on the back of credit was it not. I am no genius when it comes to economics. Just have an o level in the subject but it was always doomed to failure

There's nothing wrong with credit per se. The problem lies in not performing a proper risk assessment in the people to whom you are lending money. It's also true to say that if the economy is spending £108 for every £100 that it earns that the model is unsustainable indefinitely.

For my sins I have spent the last five years summers working at Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, UBS, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank et al. All they wanted from me was an insight into ways of making the unpleasant figures disappear from the balance sheet.

There was a culture within those institutions of short termism and damn the consequences. This was not picked up within the governance structures of those organisations or the regulatory bodies. To blame it on individual political parties is well meaning but no politicians have the skill set to counter the people who are working at these banks, as they are without doubt some of the brightest minds on the planet.
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
"...the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question."

Good use of the public purse. :wozza:

So you would rather it be spent on cleaning the moat:D
 






coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
There's nothing wrong with credit per se. The problem lies in not performing a proper risk assessment in the people to whom you are lending money. It's also true to say that if the economy is spending £108 for every £100 that it earns that the model is unsustainable indefinitely.

For my sins I have spent the last five years summers working at Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, UBS, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank et al. All they wanted from me was an insight into ways of making the unpleasant figures disappear from the balance sheet.

There was a culture within those institutions of short termism and damn the consequences. This was not picked up within the governance structures of those organisations or the regulatory bodies. To blame it on individual political parties is well meaning but no politicians have the skill set to counter the people who are working at these banks, as they are without doubt some of the brightest minds on the planet.

Are you saying that both Labour and Conservative parties had no idea what was going on in the world economy. I always like political parties who reap the rewards when things are going well but when things go tits up. Its not us gov
 




coventrygull

the right one
Jun 3, 2004
6,752
Bridlington Yorkshire
You always go on about class but you really mean race or colour.

The working class died back in the last century.

Its an insult to anyone that was working class then to say that the BNP represents anything about them.

I have always said white working class. I have never tried to hide that. I find it an insult to think that any left wing organisation uses the word working class.

May be the whole idea of class is outdated but it still exist in a lot of peoples minds
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
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Jul 5, 2003
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Are you saying that both Labour and Conservative parties had no idea what was going on in the world economy. I always like political parties who reap the rewards when things are going well but when things go tits up. Its not us gov

I don't think they are smart enough to know what was going on, but if they are not smart enough, then the BNP are light years behind I am afraid.
 


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