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chucky1973

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Nov 3, 2010
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Crawley
It think this is it for the snow now... until the winter..

Having said that the latest GFS ensemble shows a huge variance in potential outcomes, even as early as middle of next week.

Meteociel - Diagrammes GEFS

there are some milder options in there, but nothing really summer like.. yet.

Meteociel - Diagrammes GEFS

Papa, did I hear it right this morning that the outlook for this summer is the same as last year, basically a wash out with little chance of long periods of sunshine?
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
Papa, did I hear it right this morning that the outlook for this summer is the same as last year, basically a wash out with little chance of long periods of sunshine?


It's a little early to write the summer off, but for the next week or so it's looking like we're stuck in a pretty stable trough, with high pressure to our West and East, allowing lows (and the jet) to flow in from the NW over the UK. This is pretty much the setup we've has for the last 3 or 4 summers, with a few brief periods of respite.

The latest ECM does show high pressure building in from the WSW next week, which would give us some decent weather. Other models, especially the GFS keeps us unsettled on the whole, with short lived ridges being thrown up from the SW.

One concern, is that there is some evidence and a lot of academic interest in a possible link between the reduced summer ice in the Arctic and poor summers for NW Europe. If there is a link, then we'd better get used to sh*t summers :(
 


leigull

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Sep 26, 2010
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One concern, is that there is some evidence and a lot of academic interest in a possible link between the reduced summer ice in the Arctic and poor summers for NW Europe. If there is a link, then we'd better get used to sh*t summers :(

Time to move
 








Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
I saw this topic and i instantly thought "We better not be getting googling snow in May - now THAT would send me over the edge".

Well, there are reports of snow / sleet in Scotland today. Even as low as Glasgow.
 




BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
It's a little early to write the summer off, but for the next week or so it's looking like we're stuck in a pretty stable trough, with high pressure to our West and East, allowing lows (and the jet) to flow in from the NW over the UK. This is pretty much the setup we've has for the last 3 or 4 summers, with a few brief periods of respite.

The latest ECM does show high pressure building in from the WSW next week, which would give us some decent weather. Other models, especially the GFS keeps us unsettled on the whole, with short lived ridges being thrown up from the SW.

One concern, is that there is some evidence and a lot of academic interest in a possible link between the reduced summer ice in the Arctic and poor summers for NW Europe. If there is a link, then we'd better get used to sh*t summers :(

With respect, the 'reduced summer ice' argument is likely to be nothing more than inaccurate tittle tattle.

Were they the self same scientists that concluded Mediterranean summers for the UK imminently ??

The models show that there seems no immediate warmth likely, but beyond day 5-10 we cannot possibly tell.

Maybe this years Summer will be poor and we might be locked into a period of cool Summers, who knows, this is how the climate works, but similarly we might bask in hot warm weather from June onwards, no one can say.

Scientist can link a period of weather with any natural phenomenon and create a scientific opinion, but experience shows that with the climate they just cannot predict.

So relax we will have an normal English Summer ........... or we might not.
 








Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
.... or we might not.

The ECM is the only glimmer of hope short term.

We deserve a decent summer - it's long overdue.

And on the cause of this - I totally agree - climate science is struggling to cope with the effects of a rapidly warming Arctic at the moment.
 








BRIGHT ON Q

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
9,248
So with the next 10 days looking pretty shit,I take it we have jet stream problems again?.what a shit year it's been for weather so far.
 














Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,365
Worthing
After a pretty decent summer, it's decidely chilling out there at the moment.

In Scotland they've had the first significant mountain snowfall recently.
Snow Scottish Mountains.jpg

See here for real time updates:

http://www.winterhighland.info/cams/glencoe/summit.jpeg

However, things will calm down and warm up by the weekend, with High Pressure and temp up to 20C again. In fact we may see a week or 10 days of benign Autumn weather, with High pressure not far from the UK. So, no chance of early snow here.
 




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