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[Misc] The Award-winning official "More Snow Tomorrow?" Thread [2024-25 Season]



Djmiles

Barndoor Holroyd
Dec 1, 2005
12,064
Kitchener, Canada
well come 9.30, I am hopefully going to be celebrating an Arsenal victory and the thought of snow this weekend, what will probably happen is that Swansea will win and the model will go all West and we end up with rain!

Ha probably! As we keep saying, there is still time for it to change!
 






Flex Your Head

Well-known member
Met Office for London & SE England - looking good :eek:)

Yellow Alert of Snow18 Jan 2013, 03:00Yellow Alert of Snow

Valid From: 18 Jan 2013, 03:00
Valid To: 18 Jan 2013, 23:55
Issued at - 16 Jan 2013, 10:56
Valid from - 18 Jan 2013, 03:00
Valid to - 18 Jan 2013, 23:55


As the weather breaks down, an area of snow looks increasingly likely to spread from the southwest. Winds will strengthen and blizzard conditions are a possibility, especially over high ground. Accumulations of more than 10 cm of snow are possible in many parts, with the potential for some severe disruption, though currently there is a good deal of uncertainty about intensity of snow and how quickly it will turn to rain in the southwest.

The public should be aware of the risk of significant travel disruption affecting the west in the morning and the east in the afternoon. This warning is likely to be updated over the next couple of days.
 


CorgiRegisteredFriend

Well-known member
May 29, 2011
8,394
Boring By Sea
Quite clearly very few of you on this thread are going to Birmingham on Saturday. I for one do not want anything other than a mildish dry and sunny day- thank you!
 


Djmiles

Barndoor Holroyd
Dec 1, 2005
12,064
Kitchener, Canada
Quite clearly very few of you on this thread are going to Birmingham on Saturday. I for one do not want anything other than a mildish dry and sunny day- thank you!

I have my train and match tickets booked already.

I don't want the game to be postponed, but if it is postponed I would like some snow here to make up for it!
 




porkdog

Member
May 9, 2008
554
by the sea
Quite clearly very few of you on this thread are going to Birmingham on Saturday. I for one do not want anything other than a mildish dry and sunny day- thank you!

From looking at most Weather websites and the information on this thread the likely hood of getting to Brimingham is going to be pretty slim. I'm also pretty sure that by the time you get to Birmingham it would be a wasted journey. Can't see the game being on but good luck on your travels
 


CorgiRegisteredFriend

Well-known member
May 29, 2011
8,394
Boring By Sea
I have my train and match tickets booked already.

I don't want the game to be postponed, but if it is postponed I would like some snow here to make up for it!

Totally agree with you. I cant make mid week matches so if it is postponed I hope for a refund.
 


Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,354
Worthing
Twitter / metoffice: Map: expected fresh #snow ...

Look at this everywhere but southern coastal strip, is this some sort of sick joke! :ffsparr:

This was raised on TWO, and I asked this very question. I got this reply:

I actually believe even the coast of Sussex to Dorset will be OK this time, Kieron. The draw from the SE is bringing -5 dps off NW France (Friday pm) which are modified to -1 or -2 by the time they get here. Absolute temps are +1 barely on the caostal strip, maybe +2 around Bournemouth. 10 miles inland and take a degree off those. Wet Bulb zero level (12Z) of 40 - 60m ASL is marginal but with all other parameters at depth (850, 925s, etc), I am 80% sure that given current charts and predictions, snow will fall to sea level from say Portland eastwards. And rememebr we do not have any annoying sectors and pools of milder air involved in this. It's a straight cut between cold enough and not cold enough in an axis roughly a hundred miles west of the eastward limit of the surface occlusion.
So long as the surface vector is SE we'll be OK.

So, steady as you are :)
 






The Stout Yeoman

Master Farter
Aug 14, 2003
916
59 Le Petomane Boulevard
Met Office for London & SE England - looking good :eek:)

Yellow Alert of Snow18 Jan 2013, 03:00Yellow Alert of Snow

Valid From: 18 Jan 2013, 03:00
Valid To: 18 Jan 2013, 23:55
Issued at - 16 Jan 2013, 10:56
Valid from - 18 Jan 2013, 03:00
Valid to - 18 Jan 2013, 23:55


As the weather breaks down, an area of snow looks increasingly likely to spread from the southwest. Winds will strengthen and blizzard conditions are a possibility, especially over high ground. Accumulations of more than 10 cm of snow are possible in many parts, with the potential for some severe disruption, though currently there is a good deal of uncertainty about intensity of snow and how quickly it will turn to rain in the southwest.

The public should be aware of the risk of significant travel disruption affecting the west in the morning and the east in the afternoon. This warning is likely to be updated over the next couple of days.

Yellow snow alert - keep all dogs indoors!
 








Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,354
Worthing
Sort of related, as my weather station didn't calculate it, this is useful for calculating the dew point.

Dew Point Calculator

For example here, now, it's -0.4c, and 95% humidity, which gives a dew point of -1.2c.
 


larus

Well-known member
Good evening. Here is tonight's report on the 12z output from the big three namely GFS, UKMO and ECM for tonight Wednesday January 16th 2013.

All models are agreed for the next 48 hours though even at this range the specific detail differs between them. A weak front lies close to West Wales in a cold and slack pool of air over the UK over the next 24 hours. Tomorrow night sees an active frontal system moving into the West of the UK with and area of rain, readily turning to snow inland across Western areas by morning. Through the day the front decelerates as it moves East and the energy gradually slides SE late in the day. Widespread and in places heavy snowfall will occur, heaviest in Central and Western areas away from the far SW. Late in the day as the front slides away and weakens the snow will ease down and die out in most places over Saturday.

GFS then shows a quieter day or so with much of the UK under snow cover with cold conditions prevailing as a weak ridge develops briefly. By Monday further sliding Low pressure over the SW renews the risk of further rain and snowfall before towards midweek the Atlantic breaks through with rain and strong winds developing a rapid thaw of lying snow. The rest of the run shows a changeable pattern with another brief colder incursion through FI while on the whole there would be plenty of wind and rain on a milder wind flow blowing from the West.

The GFS Ensembles show the operational run was one of the milder options tonight though one can't ignore the slow trend to nearer to normal conditions as we move through Week 2. There are plenty of precipitation spikes on offer too indicating that rainfall would be commonplace as the Atlantic Lows push in and over the UK later.

The Jet Flow shows a flow weakly blowing SE over the UK. In a day or two the flow markedly strengthens as it steams across the Atlantic and crosses Europe well to the South of the UK. Eventually the flow ridges over the Atlantic and down over the UK in a week or so time.

UKMO tonight shows Low pressure filling and moving SE over France over the weekend with the legacy of Fridays snow dying out slowly over Saturday. Sunday should be a dry and cold day with a lot of cloud over the snowfields. On Monday a further area of rain and snow moves in from the SW with snow once more disruptive for some although rain is possible in the SW. Through the remaining early days of the week there will be further rain, sleet and snow in places as Low pressure close to the South of Britain fails to make inroads into the cold block over the UK.

ECM tonight shows a very wintry spell indeed with a widespread snow event on Friday subsiding away East and South over the weekend leaving cold and grey conditions for many though in any overnight clear skies some very low temperature values can be expected. By early next week a re-run of Friday seems possible as further Low pressure moves in close to the SW and on down into France by Tuesday. A bitter and strong East wind would develop on this second Low's northern flank with drifting of lying snow a major hazard should this setup verify. Through the middle of the week cold, snowy weather persists especially in the South as Low pressure is slow to move away East to the South of Britain. The end of the run shows the weather finally settling down as High pressure develops over the UK but in very cold air and countrywide snow cover some record breakingly low night time temperatures would be possible.

In Summary tonight the weather looks like staying cold through the reliable part of the output and most likely beyond too. The battleground will continue to be the UK for the next 5-7 days as successive attempts of mild air from the Atlantic try to displace the cold over the UK. The resultant copious snowfall remains a major feature of the weather with some very difficult travelling issues likely over the next week. Longer term various options are shown with GFS taking us on a milder route along with its ensembles while ECM looks like a pattern reload in the closing frame of its operational as the cold block remains to the NE, reaching across to the UK still. With pressure falling to the West the Jet is seen to be travelling South again with more disrupting troughs sliding SE over the UK likely in the days that would follow.
 




Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
19,354
Worthing
Good evening. Here is tonight's report on the 12z output from the big three namely GFS, UKMO and ECM for tonight Wednesday January 16th 2013.

All models are agreed for the next 48 hours though even at this range the specific detail differs between them. A weak front lies close to West Wales in a cold and slack pool of air over the UK over the next 24 hours. Tomorrow night sees an active frontal system moving into the West of the UK with and area of rain, readily turning to snow inland across Western areas by morning. Through the day the front decelerates as it moves East and the energy gradually slides SE late in the day. Widespread and in places heavy snowfall will occur, heaviest in Central and Western areas away from the far SW. Late in the day as the front slides away and weakens the snow will ease down and die out in most places over Saturday.

GFS then shows a quieter day or so with much of the UK under snow cover with cold conditions prevailing as a weak ridge develops briefly. By Monday further sliding Low pressure over the SW renews the risk of further rain and snowfall before towards midweek the Atlantic breaks through with rain and strong winds developing a rapid thaw of lying snow. The rest of the run shows a changeable pattern with another brief colder incursion through FI while on the whole there would be plenty of wind and rain on a milder wind flow blowing from the West.

The GFS Ensembles show the operational run was one of the milder options tonight though one can't ignore the slow trend to nearer to normal conditions as we move through Week 2. There are plenty of precipitation spikes on offer too indicating that rainfall would be commonplace as the Atlantic Lows push in and over the UK later.

The Jet Flow shows a flow weakly blowing SE over the UK. In a day or two the flow markedly strengthens as it steams across the Atlantic and crosses Europe well to the South of the UK. Eventually the flow ridges over the Atlantic and down over the UK in a week or so time.

UKMO tonight shows Low pressure filling and moving SE over France over the weekend with the legacy of Fridays snow dying out slowly over Saturday. Sunday should be a dry and cold day with a lot of cloud over the snowfields. On Monday a further area of rain and snow moves in from the SW with snow once more disruptive for some although rain is possible in the SW. Through the remaining early days of the week there will be further rain, sleet and snow in places as Low pressure close to the South of Britain fails to make inroads into the cold block over the UK.

ECM tonight shows a very wintry spell indeed with a widespread snow event on Friday subsiding away East and South over the weekend leaving cold and grey conditions for many though in any overnight clear skies some very low temperature values can be expected. By early next week a re-run of Friday seems possible as further Low pressure moves in close to the SW and on down into France by Tuesday. A bitter and strong East wind would develop on this second Low's northern flank with drifting of lying snow a major hazard should this setup verify. Through the middle of the week cold, snowy weather persists especially in the South as Low pressure is slow to move away East to the South of Britain. The end of the run shows the weather finally settling down as High pressure develops over the UK but in very cold air and countrywide snow cover some record breakingly low night time temperatures would be possible.

In Summary tonight the weather looks like staying cold through the reliable part of the output and most likely beyond too. The battleground will continue to be the UK for the next 5-7 days as successive attempts of mild air from the Atlantic try to displace the cold over the UK. The resultant copious snowfall remains a major feature of the weather with some very difficult travelling issues likely over the next week. Longer term various options are shown with GFS taking us on a milder route along with its ensembles while ECM looks like a pattern reload in the closing frame of its operational as the cold block remains to the NE, reaching across to the UK still. With pressure falling to the West the Jet is seen to be travelling South again with more disrupting troughs sliding SE over the UK likely in the days that would follow.

When i saw Gibby's post from The Weather Outlook on here i thought I'd gone to the wrong site!
 


virtual22

Well-known member
Nov 30, 2010
443
The award-winning official "More snow tomorrow?" thread [2012-13 season]

I was gonna travel up to Birmingham Friday morning as I'm going to see some friends up there and watch the game on Saturday, not looking likely now :(

The only time I can remember when I don't actually want snow
 










empire

Well-known member
Dec 1, 2003
11,729
dreamland
if you remember brum played stains last year in cup,the pitch was covered,played with orange ball,if i remember,
lets hope its not as bad as they say,imleaving at 745 sat morning!!!on train
 


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