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[Cricket] The Ashes- England v Australia- 2nd Test, Lords, June 28 - July 02, 2023

Ashes- 2nd Test- The result ?


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vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,288
I think the words were the wrong way round.

England beware.
Yes, exactly what I thought ! ...the " Australia, you have been warned " was not going to end well too.
 




Utterly infuriating, I agree with everyone on this thread. Think bazball needs to go in the bin. It clearly doesn't work against the top sides like Aus. But alas, I have been quick to judge and criticise, but so far, it needs taming at the very least. We keep getting in control and then throwing it away and crucial moments, series is Aus to lose now. I hate losing to them too.
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,570
Worthing
So Australia just need to knock up 150 -200 and that's 2-0 for the series and that's that. Can't see us winning this test from here and def can't see us winning the next three tests.

Can Sky knock off those awful adverts for the Ashes now please?
Have you succumbed to Murdoch then Veg ?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,288
Have you succumbed to Murdoch then Veg ?
No, I don't have the surplus voltage on my steam turbine.. I'm sure those who have recently shelled out must be enjoying it immensely though.
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
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Oct 17, 2008
15,023
Agree with all the comments here - I love Bazball - come on lads, need a big session here!
 




Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
30,503
Hove
Utterly infuriating, I agree with everyone on this thread. Think bazball needs to go in the bin. It clearly doesn't work against the top sides like Aus. But alas, I have been quick to judge and criticise, but so far, it needs taming at the very least. We keep getting in control and then throwing it away and crucial moments, series is Aus to lose now. I hate losing to them too.
Sorry, but we were utter shite before Stokes and McCullum turned up, the transformation of the last year of an abject Test team has been remarkable.

It has unravelled here but there is no way you bin the process because of this series, this is something to learn from, and develop the approach, not bin it.

Do you not recall the previous 4 years or so of being second best in pretty much every series including losing to the Windies!
 


Lenny Rider

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2010
6,090
Trying to remain optimistic and upbeat, unless there's rain out there Wincey Willis and co haven't told us about, the draw looks as unlikely as the return of Poyet, so to have any chance of winning do we really need to get them out for under 275?
 






Ali_rrr

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Feb 4, 2011
2,855
Utrecht, NL
In other news, Sri Lanka are struggling against The Netherlands. They managed to get back to a target of 214 and The Netherlands have had a couple of ducks (and a horrendous run out). Currently 126-4 with just under 30 overs to go.
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
26,340
Trying to remain optimistic and upbeat, unless there's rain out there Wincey Willis and co haven't told us about, the draw looks as unlikely as the return of Poyet, so to have any chance of winning do we really need to get them out for under 275?
Well, given that Bob commentates at that great cricket ground in the sky now, I was hoping he would send us a sign. I'm surprised W. G. Grace hasn't mentioned anything.
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,313
Through Bazball we have managed to sort one major problem that has dogged us since Strauss / Cook retired and that is piss-poor output from the Top 3. For me, that was the very essence of it - Bairstow and Stokes have always crashed the ball around pre-Bazball.

The issue is that behind that only Joe Root is capable of playing a measured innings against the best. The middle order need to bat more sensibly.
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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In other news, Sri Lanka are struggling against The Netherlands. They managed to get back to a target of 214 and The Netherlands have had a couple of ducks (and a horrendous run out). Currently 126-4 with just under 30 overs to go.
I think they must have lost their 5th wicket literally the moment I read "126-4" in your post.
No idea how good the Dutch tail is to judge what their chances of scoring the last 87 runs are.
 




fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
1,792
in a house
Sorry, but we were utter shite before Stokes and McCullum turned up, the transformation of the last year of an abject Test team has been remarkable.

It has unravelled here but there is no way you bin the process because of this series, this is something to learn from, and develop the approach, not bin it.

Do you not recall the previous 4 years or so of being second best in pretty much every series including losing to the Windies!
You are right but in this match especially we have lost our heads. Vaughan was being interviewed at lunch & his assessment was that last year against India & New Zealand players like Bairstow hit the accelerator after he'd got his eye in & only took calculated risks, this year it was just attack at all costs.

This match they have been like lemmings, Crawley learnt nothing from Root's dismissal in the first test, Duckett learnt nothing from Root's "out" & the rest of them just kept doing the same thing. Crawley, Duckett & Pope gave England a terrific start, thereafter, apart from Brook for a while, we played like school boys.
 


Ali_rrr

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Feb 4, 2011
2,855
Utrecht, NL
I think they must have lost their 5th wicket literally the moment I read "126-4" in your post.
No idea how good the Dutch tail is to judge what their chances of scoring the last 87 runs are.
Just lost another one now. They can actually all bat a bit. Think the NRR was in the back of their minds so some silly shots were being played, but just need to relax and take the singles. Logan van Beek the hero of the super over is in now.
 


The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
18,401
Wind howling, overcast conditions, Australia a bowler down… We’ve had the much better of the conditions and we are still well behind in this match.

Be interesting to see how many the Aussies will want to be in the lead before a declaration, if at all, without a front line spinner will they be more conservative? I guess it doesn’t really matter what they set, England will have a biff and a hoik
 






Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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Darlington
Wind howling, overcast conditions, Australia a bowler down… We’ve had the much better of the conditions and we are still well behind in this match.

Be interesting to see how many the Aussies will want to be in the lead before a declaration, if at all, without a front line spinner will they be more conservative? I guess it doesn’t really matter what they set, England will have a biff and a hoik
With only a few days between tests, I don't think he'll even consider declaring until just before tea tomorrow.
Get as many overs into our bowlers' legs as possible.
It's not like he needs to worry about us blocking out a day, our technique and mindset isn't up to it even if we tried.
 




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