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Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,121
Haywards Heath
Yorkie said:
Ruth, Paul and Tuan are by far the strongest candidates left.

Agree on Ruth and Paul. I don't think Tuan will last much longer.

He spent a lot of time on the calendar.

Tuan and Michelle weren't keen on taking their first stab at Project Management last night.
 




TheWolf

New member
Apr 8, 2005
84
Wolverhampton
Buzza said:
Agree on Ruth and Paul. I don't think Tuan will last much longer.

He spent a lot of time on the calendar.

Tuan and Michelle weren't keen on taking their first stab at Project Management last night.

Ruth does not win FACT
 


dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,265
London
Beach Hut said:
And pray tell me, what do you base that on

As Vanessa Veltz stated, the strongest candidate left (Brummie chubbo) is more akin to being a warehouse manager than a future leader. Good at barking orders and man managing in her outdated autocratic style, but an abysmal strategist. Now if that's the best left, what hope has sugar of finding someone decent?

The problem with Sugar is that a lot of the time he doesn't fire people based on the task, instead, he fires them on pre-conceived ideas of his, he's already judged all of them. He also doesn't seem to favour a good education or people from a good background which severely hampers his chances of finding anyone decent.

Overall, I'm basing some of my judgement on people Ive worked with, I remember being in credit derivatives at JPMorgan and seeing some of the younger crop come up (traders and marketers), who were all road scholars, street smart and f***ing good....I read recently that they had been poached by Morgan Stanley on guaranteed million+ bonuses - now I would have loved to see them slog it out against each other, there literally would be blood shed!! - I suppose another problem with the programme being able to attract the creme de la creme is the measly 100k salary and the thought of working for AMSTRAD lol!!
 


aftershavedave

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
7,141
as 10cc say, not in hove
dwayne said:
As Vanessa Veltz stated, the strongest candidate left (Brummie chubbo) is more akin to being a warehouse manager than a future leader. Good at barking orders and man managing in her outdated autocratic style, but an abysmal strategist. Now if that's the best left, what hope has sugar of finding someone decent?

The problem with Sugar is that a lot of the time he doesn't fire people based on the task, instead, he fires them on pre-conceived ideas of his, he's already judged all of them. He also doesn't seem to favour a good education or people from a good background which severely hampers his chances of finding anyone decent.

Overall, I'm basing some of my judgement on people Ive worked with, I remember being in credit derivatives at JPMorgan and seeing some of the younger crop come up (traders and marketers), who were all road scholars, street smart and f***ing good....I read recently that they had been poached by Morgan Stanley on guaranteed million+ bonuses - now I would have loved to see them slog it out against each other, there literally would be blood shed!! - I suppose another problem with the programme being able to attract the creme de la creme is the measly 100k salary and the thought of working for AMSTRAD lol!!

some good points (apart from "road scholars" its rhodes scholars) and the rather insulting "measly" reference, the most obvious being that working with sugar would be crap, absolute crap
 






dwayne

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
16,265
London
afters said:
some good points (apart from "road scholars" its rhodes scholars) and the rather insulting "measly" reference, the most obvious being that working with sugar would be crap, absolute crap

yer just read that back...I did know it was Rhode's, honest guv, that's what happens when you type quickly!
 




Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,468
Mid Sussex
dwayne said:
As Vanessa Veltz stated, the strongest candidate left (Brummie chubbo) is more akin to being a warehouse manager than a future leader. Good at barking orders and man managing in her outdated autocratic style, but an abysmal strategist. Now if that's the best left, what hope has sugar of finding someone decent?

The problem with Sugar is that a lot of the time he doesn't fire people based on the task, instead, he fires them on pre-conceived ideas of his, he's already judged all of them. He also doesn't seem to favour a good education or people from a good background which severely hampers his chances of finding anyone decent.

Overall, I'm basing some of my judgement on people Ive worked with, I remember being in credit derivatives at JPMorgan and seeing some of the younger crop come up (traders and marketers), who were all road scholars, street smart and f***ing good....I read recently that they had been poached by Morgan Stanley on guaranteed million+ bonuses - now I would have loved to see them slog it out against each other, there literally would be blood shed!! - I suppose another problem with the programme being able to attract the creme de la creme is the measly 100k salary and the thought of working for AMSTRAD lol!!


You're not seriously suggesting that a Rhodes scholar or someone of a similar ilk would go on a program like this ... are you?
Mind you 100k would do me nicely ...... but then again I do have a modicum of self respect so working for someone like Sugar wouldn't be for me ...
 






Superseagull

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,123
I'd like the next series should be full of people from less privilaged backgrounds plucked from the streets who have raw talent, rather than wanabee high flyer managers who spent the last year listening to self motovation CD's, and come out with all the old brain storming, team building nonsense.
 


















Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,875
Brighton, UK
Billy the Fish said:
Excuse me for being an oik, but what's a Rhode scholar?

Foreign students, mainly American ones, who get a scholarship to go to Oxford for a year (I think). Bill Clinton was one, as, I think, was Jack Kennedy. Cecil Rhodes set it up with an endowment.
 
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Man of Harveys

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
18,875
Brighton, UK
afters said:
was he well endowed then harvs?:jester:

He had a dong like the size of Uganda if this picture is to be believed. And a more than slightly fey manner about him.

Rhodes.jpg
 




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