[Football] The Apology

[Herr Tubthumper]

Send the VAR bloke back to Australia !

That’s harsh, very harsh.

 

[pure_white]

Arsenal fan on 606 just now, sticking up for BHA re VAR at Rottenham

 

[Stato]

The club's response needs to be a bit pointed, something like 'BHA would like to thank PGMOL for yet another / the fourth apology received for refereeing errors in 2022/23. If its all very well with them, we'd rather not hear from them again this season'

They need something that isn't disrespectful, but that will give the media an angle to write stories around Brighton always suffering because of PGMOL's incompetence. That will give a bit of meat to the talk shows. Have Jim White doing a segment asking his panel of rentagobs whether they think that PGMOL have it in for the Seagulls?

We need all officials to be very aware that we've been on the wrong end of more than our fair share of their mistakes and plant a seed in their minds that they're under the spotlight and that any future decisions concerning us better be correct.

 

[A mex eyecan]

Per

 

[BRIGHT ON Q]

It's so bloody obvious we would be top of the apology chart.
What is it with us and all this crap season after season?

 

[Blues Guitarist]

Given the amount of so-called errors, yesterday, I can only think of two possible explanations:
The first is possible corruption (and the poll seems to suggest that many think that it's likely...although hard to prove), and the second is that it was the most incompetent officiating (even with the tools at their disposal) seen in any PL match....ever (so far!).
Assuming that the first option is not accepted, surely it has to be the second, in which case, will they be dismissed from their job? If not, why not?

Who could possibly look at the Mitoma penalty incident from several angles in slow motion and be so incompetent that they really believed it was not a penalty?

 

[birthofanorange]

Who could possibly look at the Mitoma penalty incident from several angles in slow motion and be so incompetent that they really believed it was not a penalty?

Quite.

 

[Davemania]

f*** the premier league. f*** the premier league. f*** the premier league, f*** the premier league, f*** the premier leeeeeeagguee!!!

 

[PeterT]

I sometimes look on this site due to family links, nothing but sympathy and disbelief on here from Birmingham City fans:

https://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,3340475,page=1

 

[Weststander]

Good conspiracy but I suspect we will find it is bollocks.

Do referees have secret meetings with the Big Six?

Who are the Big Six, anyway?

ManUre
Citeh
Liverpoo
Arse
Spuds
Chelusa

Whatabout* Newcastle, the richest club in the world?

How will the conspiracy elevate basket case Chelusa?

*And let's not forget Massive.

Imho it’s not corruption, a stitch up to give Villa and Spuds our place. That’s Italian football.

Instead it’s the kind of bias you referred to in another thread shown towards Kane and Shearer. A reverence or fear, to be damn (and wrongly) sure not make a faux pas that will hurt a big name club/players. To avoid that outcry, that unpopularity. No different from a ref bottling sending a Manure player off at OT.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Imho it’s not corruption, a stitch up to give Villa and Spuds our place. That’s Italian football.

Instead it’s the kind of bias you referred to in another thread shown towards Kane and Shearer. A reverence or fear, to be damn (and wrongly) sure to not make a faux pas that will hurt a big name club/players. To avoid that outcry, that unpopularity. No different from a ref bottling sending a Manure player off at OT.

Cheers. Yes, unconscious bias (with a bit of cheeky conscious bias thrown in when it's 50:50). Jobza Baddun.

The less we allow human 'judgement' and 'tacit expertize' to render decisions (of any sort) the better. Programme a machine, and programme it again till it does what we want it to do.

Maybe we could ask ChatGPT to do a bit of reffing

 

[Blues Guitarist]

Imho it’s not corruption, a stitch up to give Villa and Spuds our place. That’s Italian football.

Instead it’s the kind of bias you referred to in another thread shown towards Kane and Shearer. A reverence or fear, to be damn (and wrongly) sure to not make a faux pas that will hurt a big name club/players. To avoid that outcry, that unpopularity. No different from a ref bottling sending a Manure player off at OT.

It's very different. In the heat of the moment you can bottle a decision. But on VAR, you see the event replayed again and again and again, from different camera angles, in slow motion. The heat of the moment is taken out of the decision.

If you still get it very badly wrong, it's remarkable incompetence..

 

[Bodian]

Sod the apology - what I want to hear is their explanation as to 'why' the 'mistake' was made. Did VAR drop out, was the VAR ref asleep at the time. Or what? They must surely have some sort of explanation - because they cannot hide under something like 'subjective', 'missed', 'poor camera angle' or bollocks like that.

 

[Si Gull]

Imho it’s not corruption, a stitch up to give Villa and Spuds our place. That’s Italian football.

Instead it’s the kind of bias you referred to in another thread shown towards Kane and Shearer. A reverence or fear, to be damn (and wrongly) sure not make a faux pas that will hurt a big name club/players. To avoid that outcry, that unpopularity. No different from a ref bottling sending a Manure player off at OT.

I think you're right and I'm guessing that a fair proportion of people, when they use the word 'corruption' are really referring to bias. IMO, because I can't bring myself to believe there is match fixing.

 

[Greenbag50]

Nothing will happen

 

[GT49er]

Good conspiracy but I suspect we will find it is bollocks.

Do referees have secret meetings with the Big Six?

Who are the Big Six, anyway?

...

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The club's response needs to be a bit pointed, something like 'BHA would like to thank PGMOL for yet another / the fourth apology received for refereeing errors in 2022/23. If its all very well with them, we'd rather not hear from them again this season'

They need something that isn't disrespectful, but that will give the media an angle to write stories around Brighton always suffering because of PGMOL's incompetence. That will give a bit of meat to the talk shows. Have Jim White doing a segment asking his panel of rentagobs whether they think that PGMOL have it in for the Seagulls?

We need all officials to be very aware that we've been on the wrong end of more than our fair share of their mistakes and plant a seed in their minds that they're under the spotlight and that any future decisions concerning us better be correct.

Play the victim? Good idea.

But how soon would those old tropes reappear?

We sold our ground without planning where to play. How foolish.
We had an unfair advantage owing to Tony Bloom's money.
Now, sour grapes from a club punching well above their weight.

Not saying all this would come our way but if we do want to make waves (and my guess is Tony Bloom won't touch a wave with a barge pole - yet) we need to brace ourselves for a backlash.

After all, nobody likes a sore loser.

I do like today's (and yesterday's) radio coverage, however. Heaps of opprobrium without the club lifting a finger.
Maybe we should leave it like this.

Till next time. Then bring out the guns. A statistical analysis of how we have been singled out for 'unaccountable' shit decision making compared with other clubs. Tony can do those maths..... n=4 has so much more power than n=3.

And it will soon be n=4. By the looks of it

 

[Solid at the back]

And it will soon be n=4. By the looks of it

23/04/23

 

[Sirnormangall]

From what I can collect together:

Aston Villa 2
West Ham 1
Newcastle United 1
Arsenal 2
Nottingham Forest 1
Manchester United 1
Brighton 3
Wolves 1

In the commercial world 12 serious errors would have resulted in heads rolling. I think the on field officials are doing their best (albeit still crap at times) but the VAR guys are simply incompetent: they can’t see (or don’t want to see) what 99% of us can see. PGMOL - get some balls and sack them. Let’s see some action ffs not just a meaningless apology.

 

[clapham_gull]

Cut off their goolies.