[Football] The Apology

[jimhigham]

And just think, we get to do this all again next weekend...

...and the next one

 

[Winker]

I think you can trace the origin of all these VAR farces back to the failed European super league.
The FA has told the 'Big Six' that if they stay in the PL they will be guaranteed European football every season.
When a plucky little upstart like B&HA/ Brentford/ Fulham threaten to break into the european places then they will be slapped down by the FA's officials.
Obviously Chelsea have really fecked it up this season but luckily for the FA, Saudi FC have bought their way into contention instead.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

Semi final draw was probably rigged. Wouldn't be difficult with that bag of balls they use.

Just to be clear, is it the Premier League, the PGMOL, the FA, Asian gambling syndicates or the BBC and overseas TV rights holders who are conspiring against us?
Or a combination of the above?

 

[Triggaaar]

After seeing a lot of referee mistakes, I might start liking the idea of playoff. I mean, I feel playoff can make the influence of referee mistakes smaller in the end.

1st to 3rd clubs = straight Champions League

4th to 7th clubs = playoff for Champions League or Europa League.

Nah, that would be worse. What if your club earnt 4th over an entire season, finishing 20 points above 7th, and then dodgy ref decisions in playoffs awarded the CL spot to them instead?

 

[Triggaaar]

Suggest that 3 guys sit in on VAR, in 3 separate locations, and all 3 have to make the same decision for VAR to rule, any difference of opinion sends the on pitch ref to the monitor.
This way the on pitch ref knows that at least one colleague disagrees with him, maybe 2, but not all 3, so should be swayed less to change his decision by peer pressure, and make a fair judgement, and if all 3 VAR agree, we should get the right decision.
Suggest that all conversations between match officials are recorded, and recordings be available for clubs where decisions seem to be at odds with reality.

I've heard worse ideas.

 

[Muzzman]

Fine.

I’d love for the club to release a formal statement categorically refusing the apology.

Not sure that’s ever been done before?

 

[Triggaaar]

At some point a club has to go public and say it has lost confidence in VAR and that it should be put in a cupboard somewhere for a bit whilst the grown ups figure how to use it properly.

I don't blame VAR for yesterday, I blame the official using it. He can be blamed, and should be fired. The problem without VAR is that they can get decisions like the Mitoma penalty wrong and you can't really complain, because it wasn't easy to see live. And then you'd get more bad decisions in favour of the big clubs with no come-back.

 

[Triggaaar]

If PGMOL are accepting responsibility for not awarding yesterday's penalty (1 point dropped) having already admitted culpability for the Palace debacle (2 points), not sure re the Villa one but we lost the game by the odd goal, so could have got a draw (1 point) and we miss out on a level of european qualification by 4 points, can we sue them?

No.

I'm sure there is some convoluted legalese somewhere that stops us, but it doesn't seem right that an organisation can f*ck up this badly so often and not face some form of ramifications.

Firstly I'd like apologies for the other mistakes, not just the one. And the people making the mistakes should be punished in accordance with not doing their job properly. That's pretty much all we can expect.

 

[kevo]

They should also be apologising for Mitoma's disallowed goal. It clearly was not handball according to the laws of the game.

 

[Triggaaar]

So we have had 25% of all the apologies. Crazy !

And we're owed more.

 

[7dialssouthpaw]

This is true - but I believe Chelsea have been set adrift this year. They were never really part of the Club. Neither are Man. C nor Newcastle btw. Our fight now is with Villa for seventh. Liverpool will overtake us both. It is written.

I think you can trace the origin of all these VAR farces back to the failed European super league.
The FA has told the 'Big Six' that if they stay in the PL they will be guaranteed European football every season.
When a plucky little upstart like B&HA/ Brentford/ Fulham threaten to break into the european places then they will be slapped down by the FA's officials.
Obviously Chelsea have really fecked it up this season but luckily for the FA, Saudi FC have bought their way into contention instead.hey

 

[chickens]

There needs to be some ACTUAL repercussions.

- financial? clubs financially compensated when poor decisions cost them points
- actual? replay fixtures in extreme cases
- referees held accountable? mandatory post match interviews - promotion/relegations/sacking of poor performing refs

The problem is it gets unworkable really quickly. For me PGMOL should be dipping into their pockets to make up any prize money missed out on due to incorrect decisions costing points.

It wouldn’t make up for missing out on Europe though, and how do you calculate the cost/compensation for that. Each club has different attendances and travelling support, you can’t confidently predict how far we/they would get.

I absolutely want to see bad refs demoted and good refs promoted. I don’t even know if that happens consistently and transparently.

 

[BluesRockDJ]

I'd like to think that over time Howard Webb will improve things, but there's no sign of it yet. Attwell and his over-excited Assistant should be given a long rest, as should the simpleton VAR

Send the VAR bloke back to Australia !

 

[Mike Small]

Apologies if this has been said but we should be pushing/asking/demanding/taking legal action to ask for the game to be replayed or financial compensation.

 

[Boys 9d]

Howard Webb has made an improvement. Before he was appointment there were less apologies.

 

[mlg57]

Send the VAR bloke back to Australia !

Does there need to be a bonus point? Spurs keep their points but Brighton are awarded a point for the error?

 

[swindonseagull]

Should sack the incompetent officials......if we can import the best players for the Premier League why don't we import the best officials from overseas?

 

[WhingForPresident]

I think you can trace the origin of all these VAR farces back to the failed European super league.
The FA has told the 'Big Six' that if they stay in the PL they will be guaranteed European football every season.
When a plucky little upstart like B&HA/ Brentford/ Fulham threaten to break into the european places then they will be slapped down by the FA's officials.
Obviously Chelsea have really fecked it up this season but luckily for the FA, Saudi FC have bought their way into contention instead.

I'd say the increase in 'odd' officiating started when Leicester won the title.

 

[KZNSeagull]

How many apologies do they have to issue before they think that they have a problem? Good job that they are not a business reliant upon customers as they would have gone bust by now.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think you can trace the origin of all these VAR farces back to the failed European super league.
The FA has told the 'Big Six' that if they stay in the PL they will be guaranteed European football every season.
When a plucky little upstart like B&HA/ Brentford/ Fulham threaten to break into the european places then they will be slapped down by the FA's officials.
Obviously Chelsea have really fecked it up this season but luckily for the FA, Saudi FC have bought their way into contention instead.

Good conspiracy but I suspect we will find it is bollocks.

Do referees have secret meetings with the Big Six?

Who are the Big Six, anyway?

ManUre
Citeh
Liverpoo
Arse
Spuds
Chelusa

Whatabout* Newcastle, the richest club in the world?

How will the conspiracy elevate basket case Chelusa?

*And let's not forget Massive.