[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[Bodian]

Please please please let it be true.

But what story would actually end his campaign? Really?

• Assaulting a woman?
• Cosying up to Putin?
• Inciting a riot against the Capitol?
• 34 Felonies conviction?
• Had an affair?
• Paid off a porn star?
• Stole and kept state secrets at his club?
• Calling a dead soldier a ****ing Mexican and refusing to pay her funeral costs.

None of these have dented his campaign - so what is it that would?

 

[Zeberdi]

Please please please let it be true.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but this is based an old story - I remember when it came out several years ago… yet Trump still got to run again.

Trump’s alleged comments about Hitler came out in 2021 and was widely reported in MSM when Michael Bender published a book on Trump - Trump’s comments were reportedly made to his then Chief of Staff John Kelly when Trump was in Europe celebrating the centennial of the end of WWI.

It didn’t lose him much support then and probably won’t now. People - (the MAGA crowd) - were more upset about him calling the US fallen in WWI as “suckers” and “losers” on the same trip than anything that was subsequently revealed he had said about Hitler.

Surely if there was a genuine videotape of Trump’s conversation with Kelly it would have come out before now?

Harris may get some milage out of it but the Trump Campaign will vigorously deny it and John Kelly has not been on speaking terms with Trump since he resigned his post as his Chief of Staff in 2018 and now vigorously opposes his reelection.

Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

Remark shocked John Kelly, author Michael Bender reports, detailing former president’s ‘stunning disregard for history’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bodian]

Sorry to be a doomsayer but this is based an old story - I remember when it came out several years ago… yet Trump still got to run again.

Trump’s alleged comments about Hitler came out in 2021 and was widely reported in MSM when Michael Bender published a book on Trump - Trump’s comments were reportedly made to his then Chief of Staff John Kelly when Trump was in Europe celebrating the centennial of the end of WWI.

It didn’t lose him much support then and probably won’t now. People - (the MAGA crowd) - were more upset about him calling the US fallen in WWI as “suckers” and “losers” on the same trip than anything that was subsequently revealed he had said about Hitler.

Surely if there was a genuine videotape of Trump’s conversation with Kelly it would have come out before now?

Harris may get some milage out of it but the Trump Campaign will vigorously deny it and John Kelly has not been on speaking terms with Trump since he resigned his post as his Chief of Staff in 2018 and now vigorously opposes his reelection.

Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

Remark shocked John Kelly, author Michael Bender reports, detailing former president’s ‘stunning disregard for history’

www.theguardian.com

It can't be the Hitler thing - because, as you say, that's been around for ages. Even Harris has referred to it.

 

[Zeberdi]

It can't be the Hitler thing - because, as you say, that's been around for ages. Even Harris has referred to it.

Well you’d think wouldn’t you? But shit’s hitting the fan on MSM about the Hitler story that’s been breaking all day after the Atlantic published the allegations yesterday following an interview that John Kelly had done with the NYT

Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’

The Republican nominee’s preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.

www.theatlantic.com

Did Donald Trump praise Hitler? What we know

Former White House chief of staff John Kelly said Trump expressed admiration for the loyalty shown by Adolf Hitler's generals.

www.newsweek.com

Until now they have been allegations but the tweets posted above suggests there may be an AI video going round supposedly “proving” Trump actually said the stuff about Hitler.

Even if there was a video, it won’t make any difference imo to MAGA support, the Republicans will just say it’s fake.

America is at war with itself and ‘the first casualty of any war is truth’.

 

[Bodian]

Well you’d think wouldn’t you? But shit’s hitting the fan on MSM about the Hitler story that’s been breaking all day after the Atlantic published the allegations yesterday following an interview that John Kelly had done with the NYT

Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’

The Republican nominee’s preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.

www.theatlantic.com

Did Donald Trump praise Hitler? What we know

Former White House chief of staff John Kelly said Trump expressed admiration for the loyalty shown by Adolf Hitler's generals.

www.newsweek.com

Until now they have been allegations but the tweets posted above suggests there may be an AI video going round supposedly “proving” Trump actually said the stuff about Hitler.

Even if there was a video, it won’t make any difference imo to MAGA support, the Republicans will just say it’s fake.

America is at war with itself and ‘the first casualty of any war is truth’.

Interesting. But I still can't see how it will affect his MAGA fans, and can't see how it will end his campaign.

 

[Zeberdi]

Interesting. But I still can't see how it will affect his MAGA fans, and can't see how it will end his campaign.

No I agree - that was my original point.

I don’t think it will make any difference at all - I think perhaps the tweet was a bit of click bait.

Even being a convicted felon hasn’t ended his campaign or the rest of the list you noted above - it’s hard to imagine now whether anything he says or does will end his campaign.

 

[AZ Gull]

No I agree - that was my original point.

I don’t think it will make any difference at all - I think perhaps the tweet was a bit of click bait.

Even being a convicted felon hasn’t ended his campaign or the rest of the list you noted above - it’s hard to imagine now whether anything he says or does will end his campaign.

There is a suggestion on social media that the Trump story is him groping the teenage daughter of one of the donor's at a fundraiser.

 

[Mental Lental]

Interesting. But I still can't see how it will affect his MAGA fans, and can't see how it will end his campaign.

This is what they're saying about it....

 

[BadFish]

But what story would actually end his campaign? Really?

• Assaulting a woman?
• Cosying up to Putin?
• Inciting a riot against the Capitol?
• 34 Felonies conviction?
• Had an affair?
• Paid off a porn star?
• Stole and kept state secrets at his club?
• Calling a dead soldier a ****ing Mexican and refusing to pay her funeral costs.

None of these have dented his campaign - so what is it that would?

You can add threatening his opponents with the military and threatening to tear up the constitution to meet his goals.

What on earth else can it be?
- Suggesting making it harder to get access to guns if someone has mental health issues
- Being pro choice
- Not really being a Christian - (oh shit no he's done that one)
-Being a black woman

these are the only things I could imagine upsetting the MAGAs

 

[Zeberdi]

There is a suggestion on social media that the Trump story is him groping the teenage daughter of one of the donor's at a fundraiser.

Yeah - looks like that’s the one that’s gained some traction although no video posted yet and it is not clear where the rumours about a video emerged from.

... I’m expecting some equally mind blowing stories to circulate about Kamala - it‘s the ‘October Surprise ‘ phenomenon - both sides looking for that ‘event’ that will have a major impact on the election:

MAGA supporters know Trump is a serial sexual predator, they heard the Access to Hollywood tape, yet it won’t make a blind bit of difference to his support base, maybe not even swing voters - they’d vote for a convicted rapist if they thought they’d be better off financially,

Tbh - I’m just finding the whole thing depressing now that humans can be so utterly stupid and self destructive.

Donald Trump 'Groped' A Minor At Donor Event? Claims Of Bombshell Video Surface

Several social media users, including commentators and reporters, on Wednesday claimed that Democrats are allegedly sitting on a 'bombshell' video showing former President Donald Trump 'groping a minor' at a donor event. No official or Republican campaign member has reacted to the claims yet...

www.timesnownews.com

7 'October Surprises' That Disrupted US Presidential Elections | HISTORY

When scandalous news emerged in the final weeks of these presidential campaigns, election outcomes were at stake.

www.history.com