Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
- 15,954
Uh-huh? 'Rumoured' by whom?
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Fake news! There are alternative facts!
Vankleek Hill Seagull
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Front page of The New European magazine.
nicko31
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No one does front pages like the TNEFront page of The New European magazine.
Please . . . Can this financially incompetent misogynist bully die soon. The usa is f***ed up beyond most countries scale of belief . . . Although England is dragging itself perilously close . . . . . No one needs or wants it to get any worse . . . . .
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,168
If the labelling of his voters pushes more people in his direction, does this stuff too?
I can't help but wonder if all the hysteria pushes people into or further into the cult of Trump.
@Crawley Dingo what do you think when you see front pages like this?
The one sliver of hope I cling to on the Ukraine situation if Trump does win is that the American arms manufacturing industry will be keen to keep having their wares “tested” against Russian gear, and they hold a lot of sway over Washington when it comes to the green stuff
If I was in the US I would definitely vote trump over Biden.
But besides that I'm not sure why people on this board or Europeans are so bothered by trump being president.
Like this country both parties in the states are as bad as each other. At least trump is entertaining. Also, unless I'm wrong hardly any major conflicts seemed to kick off on his watch last time around, since Biden got into power there seems to be a different issue every week, the guy is a joke.
But besides that I'm not sure why people on this board or Europeans are so bothered by trump being president.
Like this country both parties in the states are as bad as each other. At least trump is entertaining. Also, unless I'm wrong hardly any major conflicts seemed to kick off on his watch last time around, since Biden got into power there seems to be a different issue every week, the guy is a joke.
Let me stop you there.
Out of interest, why?
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Because he's not Biden. Tbh I just wouldn't vote.
Number 1)The Dems insist on divisive identity politics, which I hate.
The fear mongering is back as well. Aside from saying a bunch of mean things and having all of his decisions shut down by activist federal judges, the only substantial thing trump did was use his power to put conservatives within the judiciary.
Biden was supposed to be the new hope and what did we get. Something close to a world war with Russia and now the Palestine / Israel mess.
So - not 'definitely vote Trump' then - but not voting at all...!
Not too sure how Biden has created the Ukraine invasion or the Palestine / Israel situation. In your view - what would Trump have done differently that would have prevented either of these?
He is mates with Putin so I suspect this wouldn't have happened if he was president....
Or would have happened quicker - and would have had less resistance because of reduced funding to Ukraine. But I guess we'll never know.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,168
Where did you get this idea? I thought that right from the start Biden's only real virtue was that he was a safe pair of hands . . . and not Trump.
But that's exactly my point. Despite all the doomsday commentary on trump, the world feels a hell of a lot more uncertain and unsafe since sleepy Joe got in. This may just be coincidence or maybe there's something in it......
Can people please stop voting for leaders based on entertainment and start doing so based on ability?
As for the “no wars under Trump” bit, is Biden responsible for Russia and Hamas now? Only they started the two major conflicts currently kicking off.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
- 15,954
You SERIOUSLY think it's possible that the world was more 'certain and safe' before Biden, purely because of Donald Trump? That he has THAT much influence over the world's dictators?
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To suggest voting on the entertainment value of an abusive, narcissistic demagogue who frankly is a consummate bull in a china shop when it comes to world diplomacy would be farcical if it wasn’t blindingly irresponsible .
Suffice to say, read the background stories to the news or read back on the thread a little … conflicts don’t happen in a vacuum and they certainly don’t spring up over night, they are often years in the planning and conditions for conflict happen months if not years and years before the actual outbreak of actual hostilities …
Just for example points below; posted earlier in thread (quote edited): See especially my note on UKRAINE:
As for why people on this board are so bothered; why the rest of the World (other than Russia, Israel or North Korea) are so bothered if Trump gets back into the WH; Because the ‘leader of the free world’ affects the whole world … that’s why. Civil unrest and the undermining of liberal democracy in America (that has gone hand and hand with Trump’s first term in the WH) would send a political shockwave throughout all Western Democracies if he got elected (or even barred from running) - And this Election does effect you personally because we are living in a globalised world where militarily, economically and environmentally, the foreign policy of the US is not just intertwined with that of her allies but largely influences the direction it takes too. The next POTUS could determine whether we stay at 90 seconds, or move even closer than we already are, to midnight on the Doomsday Clock.
Can Europe survive Trump 2.0?
The Continent could face a US president who toyed with quitting NATO and pledged to strike a ‘peace deal’ with Russia.
www.politico.eu
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