Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 156 39.5%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 218 55.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 18 4.6%

  • Total voters
    395
  • This poll will close: .


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,145
Just discovered Mark 'The Undertaker' Callaway, my favourite wrestler growing, up is a MAGA Cult Fucknut. Dude had The Orange One on his podcast recently.

Which is both disappointing and weirdly unsurprising.
He’s a real redneck so it’s no big shock…
 




Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,694




Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,649


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,050
Cumbria




jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,145
This won't change anything. For a start it's ages ago - and secondly, that type of behaviour has already been deemed acceptable in Trump to his supporters.
“Grab them by the pussy”
 


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,429
Dubai
This won't change anything. For a start it's ages ago - and secondly, that type of behaviour has already been deemed acceptable in Trump to his supporters.
Yup. Trump could sexually abuse a whole row of women, and the MAGA cultists wouldn't care less.

But if he was to say something truly outrageous like, "Maybe it's not the best idea to give depressed, angry teenagers unlimited access to semi-automatic guns", well – that'd be a whole different story. Might even lose him a few votes.
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,145
Yup. Trump could sexually abuse a whole row of women, and the MAGA cultists wouldn't care less.

But if he was to say something truly outrageous like, "Maybe it's not the best idea to give depressed, angry teenagers unlimited access to semi-automatic guns", well – that'd be a whole different story. Might even lose him a few votes.
What I find hardest to understand is his hardcore support base of women.
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,714
I think that’s a separate incident from the one @AZ Gull highlighted.

The one in question with the alleged video in the Democrats possession happened at a fundraiser.

There are so many though ….every election year around September/October we are reminded of them, not that it makes an iota of difference to his redneck base

 
Last edited:


Frutos

.
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
May 3, 2006
36,254
Northumberland
I don't think there's any real expectation that anything Trump does/says/has done or said would turn MAGA against him.

I think the point is more that the hardcore MAGA cult vote is not enough to get him the win, he needs votes from more moderate people and its THEM who could turn against him if these rumours are correct.
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,714
If that is the case, how do you explain away the peaceful years from 2017 through 2020?
If you think Trump appeasing Netanyahu’s expansionist policies for Israel, his assassination of top Iranian generals, tearing up the nuclear deal and appeasing Putin over Ukraine was years that were spent laying the groundwork for peace, you need to open up your eyes and do some background reading.

Wars don’t start out of thin air, they happen in political context and often take years of increasing instability and even acquiescence from key members of the international community before the first salvos are fired as is the case with Russia’s years of aggression toward Ukraine - and ‘nearly every step of the way, Trump has parroted Kremlin talking points, excused Russian aggression and sometimes even embraced it outright’.

Trump praised Putin for how he handled the takeover of Crimea and predicted that “the rest of Ukraine will fall … fairly quickly.” Echoing Kremlin propaganda, Trump said that the Crimean people “would rather be with Russia,” a position he also in private. One of his 2016 campaign aides falsely claimed that “Russia did not seize Crimea.”

Trump’s response to the 2022 escalation of aggression towards Ukraine was that it was “genius” and “savvy” - Trump has been greenlighting Putin’s aggression towards Ukraine for decades and most of his Presidency gave Putin the time to plan for further invasion without fear of condemnation should Trump win the 2020 election. As it turned out, Biden won in 2020 but not withstanding Russian interference in that election and that in 2016.

Trump has continued to embrace Putin throughout his time since leaving the White House - Trump’s agenda is to get foreign influence on his side to get him reelected - Putin has his own agenda - to get an easily manipulated narcissistic president back in the White House who will not stand in his way over his agenda in Ukraine.



 




Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
19,571
Indiana, USA
So why are you making them against Albion My Albion?

Mine wasn't really a personal attack, just pointing out the irony. If you took it personally then I apologise.

Truth, It's been a while and I'm not sure if it was a ban or a suspension or whatever it is called. I'm here now and grateful (but not dead) to be here.
 


Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
19,571
Indiana, USA
Voters have registered for the first time for this election. When it’s a two horse race, many didn’t bother, but there has been a good uptake of registrations this year.

Popular vote--yes, Winning the 7 battleground states it may not help. It really will be a coin toss. I'm still hoping enough Republican women will vote against their Trump fevered husbands but never tell their husbands they voted for Harris (especially in the 7 battleground states)
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,711
Faversham
What I find hardest to understand is his hardcore support base of women.
Women punching down is a real phenomenon according to a female colleague of mine who has experienced this in the workplace.

#Brokendreams alert: Not all women are made of sugar and spice.
 




Peteinblack

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
4,123
Bath, Somerset.
What I find hardest to understand is his hardcore support base of women.
I agree - so many sexual assault accusations and charges against him, and he infamously boasted that his 'technique' was to "grab 'em by the pussy".

I simply cannot understand or respect any woman who votes for such a predatory pervert.

And with his Neanderthal attitude and sense of entitlement, I bet he is/was an absolutely shit shag 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮
 


US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,555
Cleveland, OH
Sadly, that's not going to matter.

To be clear, it should matter. It should matter a lot. It would 100% sink any other candidate, but Trump isn't any other candidate and it was a 30+ years ago (not that that makes it any better in any way, shape or form). Just add it to the stack of other sexual assaults he has perpetrated, and in the case of E Jean Carol, found liable for.

Those didn't make a difference, this won't either.

If there was a accusation from the past decade, maybe it might put a ding in his popularity? What might really do it is if it was revealed that he'd paid for an abortion within the last 10 years. That might just convince the anti-choice nuts to stay home rather than voting as some of them threatened when he seemed to be wavering on the abortion issue on the Florida ballot.
 




A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,377
Deepest, darkest Sussex
No I’m sure Trump expressing his liking for Hitler will definitely play badly with his support

1729773066034.jpeg
 


Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
1,031


Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here