[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

[Igzilla]

Please provide the link to this data.

Thanks.

It'll be a link to a Newsmax youtube video, or somesuch shit.

On another note, whatever happened to QAnon? Those were fun times.

 

[US Seagull]

Ugh. Politicians pandering to the MAGA crowd:

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article294375174.html

Shooting a journalist just for the votes.

 

[AZ Gull]

Ah. You get short ones in AZ then

(actually I think ours might be a bit shorter this time, hard to tell, the local BoE won't give me a pdf of the ballot so I can see how long it would be - but you can see the "sample" ballot online and it has 31(!) questions)

Do you have the option of early voting (either in person or mail-in)?

Thankfully we have mail-in voting here; if I had to actually go to a polling station on election day, potentially queue up and then fill in that monster I think I might be tempted to just give the whole thing a swerve.

 

[US Seagull]

Do you have the option of early voting (either in person or mail-in)?

Thankfully we have mail-in voting here; if I had to actually go to a polling station on election day, potentially queue up and then fill in that monster I think I might be tempted to just give the whole thing a swerve.

I could have requested a mail-in ballot, but I didn't bother this time. I could also vote early at the board of elections, but it's not terribly convenient to get to. It's downtown, but not really downtown. I work downtown, but it's still about a 20 minute walk from my office. Which is a bit much to pop out during lunch.

A lot of space on our ballot is taken up by judges running unopposed, so those you could skip those. I'm never sure if it makes any difference at all if I take the time to shade in those bubbles on the ballot or not.

The tricky bit is the judges who are running against somebody because those elections are "non-partisan", but really aren't. So they don't have party identifications. So I actually have to look those up ahead of time. It's why I go to the BoE website to see the ballot before I head to the polls.

 

[golddene]

What do you base this idea of the majority on?

Majority of voters went for the blue team in every election since 1992 except for 2004 when the red team garnered more than the blues !

 

[jcdenton08]

Can someone tell me please what are Harris’s views on;

Britain
Ukraine/Russia

Many thanks

 

[Zeberdi]

Not sure how many people in the UK have ever seen an American ballot paper. This is my Arizona ballot for the November election - and yes, it genuinely is FOUR pages long

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Voting in the US is definitely NOT a 5-minute job! A little bit more convoluted than a UK General Election. Just for good measure you get sent some "pamphlets" to aid your decision-making - this one a mere 354 pages (it mainly consists of arguments for and against the various propositions on the ballot):-

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Wow.

That must be beyond the capacity of most Trump supporters.

(Am I allowed to say that?)

 

[Zeberdi]

Can someone tell me please what are Harris’s views on;

Britain
Ukraine/Russia

Many thanks

She will honour the “special relationship” with the UK (All prospective American Presidents cart out that trope)

As far as Ukraine, she is similar to Biden (and will continue to aid Ukraine) however, her background in Law will make her more vocal than either Biden or Trump when it comes to Russia’s illegal occupation and alleged war crimes.

How Donald Trump and Kamala Harris differ on the Russia-Ukraine war

Donald Trump and Kamala Harris sharply differ on the Ukraine-Russia war and Putin. Weeks before the 2024 election, here's where the two presidential nominees stand.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[BadFish]

"Hey, guys, chill. Why the fuss? Just let the Germans have half of Poland. They'll definitely stop there"

Was this a daily mail headline?

 

[sparkie]

The only time since 1988, don't expect it to ever happen again. Makes sense why Trump wants this to be the last ever US election.

I don't know why Trump cares whether this is the last election or not. He's senile now - who knows what state he'll be in by 2028.

 

[BadFish]

This is Dingo's debate style.

1. He says something absurd and claims it's backed with a source
2. Gets queried on the source and posts something which is tangential at best
3. Someone correctly points out the source doesn't align with what was originally claimed.
4. Dingo says they're too stupid to understand, or that they've changed his original point, and proceeds to ignore any further posts on this topic.
5. Return to step 1 and repeat.

This, sounds a lot like trolling to me.

Or

a satirical swipe at the absurdity of the Trump supporter, highlighting the need to negligible critical thinking skills.

Or

He is a trump supporter with negligible critical thinking skills.

 

[A1X]

Was this a daily mail headline?

Disgraceful slander. The Daily Mail would never have advocated for the Soviets to be given the other half.

 

[Frutos]

Could be an interesting few days if true - allegedly there is video footage.

 

[Bodian]

Could be an interesting few days if true - allegedly there is video footage.

It will merely increase his vote share......

 

[Zeberdi]

It is against federal law to pay people to register to vote as a condition of signing a petition - requesting people provide their contact details to a SuperPac and telling them someone maybe in contact with them about their vote may indeed be pushing the boundaries of the law too far. Some legal scholars are saying so and with my limited background in law, instinctively this feels like a clumsy attempt to circumvent finance laws.

As I said above, federal campaign finance laws in the US are very strict as we saw with the Stormy Daniels indictments. The issue in that case was Cohen paying off Daniels in close proximity to the 2016 election. The proximity to the election of spending $1m a day to get likely Trump voters onto the electoral register may also be a potential litigation issue in this instance too..

Context is important - ‘law’ is interpreted by case law - if something defeats the purpose of the law or goes against the spirit of the law, it is not something judges look kindly on.

This will certainly be subject to some investigation and debate - it is not as black and white as you suggest and simply ‘exploiting a loophole’.

Is Musk's $1m-a-day cash giveaway to US voters legal?

Two voters have already picked up their lottery-style cheques for a million dollars from Elon Musk.

www.bbc.co.uk

A bit more on the dubious legality of Musk paying people in Pennsylvania to sign a PAC petition with the condition they must be registered voters

US election latest: Musk 'warned $1m giveaway may violate federal law'; Trump holds town hall in Georgia

The US Justice Department's Public Integrity Section has sent a letter to Elon Musk's political group warning that its $1m giveaway in swing states may run afoul of federal law, a source familiar with the matter has confirmed to Sky's US partner network NBC News.

news.sky.com

 

[Zeberdi]

And if anyone is in doubt where Trump stands on Israel based on what he did in his first term - (all the points I raised above in post #6988)

Trump claims Netanyahu has called him twice in the last two days​

US election latest: Musk 'warned $1m giveaway may violate federal law'; Trump holds town hall in Georgia

The US Justice Department's Public Integrity Section has sent a letter to Elon Musk's political group warning that its $1m giveaway in swing states may run afoul of federal law, a source familiar with the matter has confirmed to Sky's US partner network NBC News.

news.sky.com

 

[peterward]

Please please please let it be true.

 

[Bodian]

Please please please let it be true.

But what story would actually end his campaign? Really?

• Assaulting a woman?
• Cosying up to Putin?
• Inciting a riot against the Capitol?
• 34 Felonies conviction?
• Had an affair?
• Paid off a porn star?
• Stole and kept state secrets at his club?
• Calling a dead soldier a ****ing Mexican and refusing to pay her funeral costs.

None of these have dented his campaign - so what is it that would?

 

[Zeberdi]

Please please please let it be true.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but this is based an old story - I remember when it came out several years ago… yet Trump still got to run again.

Trump’s alleged comments about Hitler came out in 2021 and was widely reported in MSM when Michael Bender published a book on Trump - Trump’s comments were reportedly made to his then Chief of Staff John Kelly when Trump was in Europe celebrating the centennial of the end of WWI.

It didn’t lose him much support then and probably won’t now. People - (the MAGA crowd) - were more upset about him calling the US fallen in WWI as “suckers” and “losers” on the same trip than anything that was subsequently revealed he had said about Hitler.

Surely if there was a genuine videotape of Trump’s conversation with Kelly it would have come out before now?

Harris may get some milage out of it but the Trump Campaign will vigorously deny it and John Kelly has not been on speaking terms with Trump since he resigned his post as his Chief of Staff in 2018 and now vigorously opposes his reelection.

Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

Remark shocked John Kelly, author Michael Bender reports, detailing former president’s ‘stunning disregard for history’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bodian]

Sorry to be a doomsayer but this is based an old story - I remember when it came out several years ago… yet Trump still got to run again.

Trump’s alleged comments about Hitler came out in 2021 and was widely reported in MSM when Michael Bender published a book on Trump - Trump’s comments were reportedly made to his then Chief of Staff John Kelly when Trump was in Europe celebrating the centennial of the end of WWI.

It didn’t lose him much support then and probably won’t now. People - (the MAGA crowd) - were more upset about him calling the US fallen in WWI as “suckers” and “losers” on the same trip than anything that was subsequently revealed he had said about Hitler.

Surely if there was a genuine videotape of Trump’s conversation with Kelly it would have come out before now?

Harris may get some milage out of it but the Trump Campaign will vigorously deny it and John Kelly has not been on speaking terms with Trump since he resigned his post as his Chief of Staff in 2018 and now vigorously opposes his reelection.

Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

Remark shocked John Kelly, author Michael Bender reports, detailing former president’s ‘stunning disregard for history’

www.theguardian.com

It can't be the Hitler thing - because, as you say, that's been around for ages. Even Harris has referred to it.