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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 171 41.6%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.8%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.9%

  • Total voters
    411
  • This poll will close: .








nicko31

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Well it's incredibly positive that at least Harris will make a contest of what previously looked like a Trump Coronation.
Still very much all to play for, a lot can happen. Trump will be gutted Biden has gone, he's got a fight on his hands.
 








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Bozza

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Still very much all to play for, a lot can happen. Trump will be gutted Biden has gone, he's got a fight on his hands.
I do find it amusing. Trump and the Republicans have spent weeks saying Biden shouldn't be standing.

They've now got exactly what they asked for, and have since kinda gone "Oh shit!"
 






Zeberdi

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I do find it amusing. Trump and the Republicans have spent weeks saying Biden shouldn't be standing.

They've now got exactly what they asked for, and have since kinda gone "Oh shit!"
A bit early to change the thread title to ‘Harris’ - rather like me changing a thread title to *singed* before the Club has announced it based on media stories so added a question mark next to Harris 😉.

Although Harris has the official endorsement of Biden and a ton of Democratic lawmakers/ranking members as well as enough delegates saying they would vote for her as the Democratic nominee, she is still just a candidate in the race at this stage. She is not even the presumptive Democratic nominee as Biden was after he won the majority pledges of delegates’ votes in the Primary elections (he still had to become the actual nominee at the Convention or by a virtual nomination).

Harris still has to win the actual votes of the delegates at the Convention that had backed Biden in the Primaries and that won’t happen until the Democratic Convention on 19 August or earlier if the Party decide to go ahead with a virtual vote as they had intended with Biden on 1 August.. Another candidate could still put their name forward at this stage, then it will be down to a vote at the Convention/virtual nomination who gets the Democratic nominee as the delegates are free to vote for whoever they like.

 


Bry Nylon

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A bit early to change the thread title to ‘Harris’ - rather like me changing a thread title to *singed* before the Club has announced it based on media stories 😉.

Although Harris has the official endorsement of Biden and a ton of Democratic lawmakers/ranking members as well as enough delegates saying they would vote for her as the Democratic nominee, she is still just a candidate in the race at this stage. She is not even the presumptive Democratic nominee as Biden was after he won the majority pledges of delegates’ votes in the Primary elections (he still had to become the actual nominee at the Convention or by a virtual nomination).

Harris still has to win the actual votes of the delegates at the Convention that had backed Biden in the Primaries and that won’t happen until the Democratic Convention on 19 August or earlier if the Party decide to go ahead with a virtual vote as they had intended with Biden on 1 August.. Another candidate could still put their name forward at this stage, then it will be down to a vote at the Convention/virtual nomination who gets the Democratic nominee as the delegates are free to vote for whoever they like.

I changed the thread title, not Bozza
 


Zeberdi

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I changed the thread title, not Bozza
Same point 👍

(’A week is a long time in politics’!)

Thanks for changing it when Biden dropped out btw if that was you?
 












Bry Nylon

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Same point 👍

(’A week is a long time in politics’!)

Thanks for changing it when Biden dropped out btw if that was you?
On a more serious note, I’m appreciative of your summary of how the process to formally get Harris on the ticket works. I was aware that she still needs to be fully endorsed but not of the timescales etc.

However, globally, the whole debate and everything surrounding it is now framed as ‘Trump vs Harris’, so for the sake of staying aligned with that, it feels appropriate that the thread title should probably reflect that.

(Well, that, plus Bozza says I haven’t been doing enough round here lately to justify my privileged access to the secret threads).
 






Zeberdi

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(Well, that, plus Bozza says I haven’t been doing enough round here lately to justify my privileged access to the secret threads).
Sorry but you can’t just drop tantalising snippets of intrigue and dark-NSC web stuff like that without more info - it’s all about ‘transparency’ these days 😎

And yes, completely agree, bar any upsets, Harris is more than very likely to be nominated - the last thing the Dems want is any more internal struggles 3 months before the election.
 




Bry Nylon

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Apologies, can't find the article but popped up on my feed, from Forbes. Harris ahead in 2 polls, Trump in the other 2. Early days but way ahead of where I expected her to be at this stage. Maybe winning over plenty who were reluctant to vote for Biden. Encouraging news anyway
On Radio 4 earlier, the correspondent was making a similar point to yours: those that will vote Trump will vote Trump regardless. However, Harris seems to have energised untold number of Democrats who otherwise were unlikely to bother voting.

A problem for Trump as his poll number will likely remain static (in volume, not percentage, obvs, if that makes sense) and Harris’ will likely climb as more Democrat voters enter the ‘pool’
 




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