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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - *MATCH DAY*

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 172 41.7%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.7%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.9%
  • Total voters
    412
  • This poll will close: .








Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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Seagull58 said:
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Brilliant, I love Seth Meyers … and Trump, when you add it all up, it is insane that this man could be voted back into the Whitehouse …😳

Greg Bobkin said:
FAKE NEWS

:moo:
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Edit- not directed at you but MAGA supporters who have indeed dismissed these claims as ‘fake news’ over the past few years …

So which bit?

  1. That he extorted Ukraine - true - threatened to withhold arms unless they provided dirt on Hunter Biden/Biden?
  2. That he responded to the Covid pandemic with bizarre remedies and conspiracy theories (Hydroxychloroquine claims, swallowing disinfectant ..and actively undermined the Nations response to a once in a lifetime pandemic
  3. That he’s twice impeached
  4. That he’s been indicted for criminal offences 4 times
  5. That he is a racist
  6. That he has been found liable for fraud and sexual abuse
  7. That he has been banned from doing business in State of NY for 3 years
  8. That he owes over half billion dollars in fines - including $453.500 for fraudulent real estate value claims
  9. Encouraged Russia to help him win in 2016 - by asking Russia to get Hillary Clinton’s emails (in a campaign speech)
  10. That he’s about to go on trial for breaking campaign finance laws by paying hush money to cover up an affair
  11. Orchestrated a month long coup attempt to overturn an election (by trying to influence State election officials, bringing frivolous court cases, repeating lies about the election for weeks, culminating in insurrection and attack on the US Capitol to prevent the peaceful transfer of power - ongoing trial
  12. Stole classified documents and obstructed efforts to get them back - ongoing trial
  13. Has never won the popular vote
  14. Glitches on 3, 2 and 1 syllable words, forgets his wife’s name
  15. Cheats at golf
  16. Makes frequent spelling mistakes on his social media accounts

This bit is a matter of opinion granted;

That; ‘He is the single weirdest and most off-putting human being on the face of the f***ing planet.’


Anyone who thinks all or even any of that is ‘Fake News’, their sole source of news must be Breitbart and Fox or they have been walking around with their eyes closed since 2016.
 
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chickens

chickens

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Oct 12, 2022
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Zeberdi said:
Brilliant, I love Seth Meyers … and Trump, when you add it all up, it is insane that this man could be voted back into the Whitehouse …😳



Which bit?

  1. That he extorted Ukraine - true - threatened to withhold arms unless they provided dirt on Hunter Biden/Biden?
  2. That he responded to the Covid pandemic with bizarre remedies and conspiracy theories (Hydroxychloroquine claims, swallowing disinfectant ..and actively undermined the Nations response to a once in a lifetime pandemic
  3. That he’s twice impeached
  4. That he’s been indicted for criminal offences 4 times
  5. That he is a racist
  6. That he has been found liable for fraud and sexual abuse
  7. That he has been banned from doing business in State of NY for 3 years
  8. That he owes over half billion dollars in fines - including $453.500 for fraudulent real estate value claims
  9. Encouraged Russia to help him win in 2016 - by asking Russia to get Hillary Clinton’s emails (in a campaign speech)
  10. That he’s about to go on trial for breaking campaign finance laws by paying hush money to cover up an affair
  11. Orchestrated a month long coup attempt to overturn an election (by trying to influence State election officials, bringing frivolous court cases, repeating lies about the election for weeks, culminating in insurrection and attack on the US Capitol to prevent the peaceful transfer of power - ongoing trial
  12. Stole classified documents and obstructed efforts to get them back - ongoing trial
  13. Has never won the popular vote
  14. Glitches on 3, 2 and 1 syllable words, forgets his wife’s name
  15. Cheats at golf
  16. Makes frequent spelling mistakes on his social media accounts

This bit is a matter of opinion granted;

That; ‘He is the single weirdest and most off-putting human being on the face of the f***ing planet.’


Anyone who thinks all that is ‘Fake News’, their sole source of news must be Breitbart and Fox or they have been walking around with their eyes closed since 2016.
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I feel you missed the cow emoji at the end of @Greg Bobkin’s post. I’m not convinced Mr Bobkin’s comment was made entirely sincerely.
 






Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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chickens said:
I feel you missed the cow emoji at the end of @Greg Bobkin’s post. I’m not convinced Mr Bobkin’s comment was made entirely sincerely.
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Sorry 🙄 - I honestly have never known what the cow emoji is actually for - still not sure :facepalm:

Looking back now at ‘Mr Bobkin’s posts’ - no, it wasn’t serious at all was it!

Just about all that Seth Seyers lists as Trump’s deficiencies, have been routinely ’dismissed’, ‘debunked’ as fake news in the past by Trump supporters so yes, @Greg Bobkin is right in anticipating the MAGA response to Seth’s show 🙂
 
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Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Zeberdi said:
Brilliant, I love Seth Meyers … and Trump, when you add it all up, it is insane that this man could be voted back into the Whitehouse …😳



Edit- not directed at you but MAGA supporters who have indeed dismissed these claims as ‘fake news’ over the past few years …

So which bit?

  1. That he extorted Ukraine - true - threatened to withhold arms unless they provided dirt on Hunter Biden/Biden?
  2. That he responded to the Covid pandemic with bizarre remedies and conspiracy theories (Hydroxychloroquine claims, swallowing disinfectant ..and actively undermined the Nations response to a once in a lifetime pandemic
  3. That he’s twice impeached
  4. That he’s been indicted for criminal offences 4 times
  5. That he is a racist
  6. That he has been found liable for fraud and sexual abuse
  7. That he has been banned from doing business in State of NY for 3 years
  8. That he owes over half billion dollars in fines - including $453.500 for fraudulent real estate value claims
  9. Encouraged Russia to help him win in 2016 - by asking Russia to get Hillary Clinton’s emails (in a campaign speech)
  10. That he’s about to go on trial for breaking campaign finance laws by paying hush money to cover up an affair
  11. Orchestrated a month long coup attempt to overturn an election (by trying to influence State election officials, bringing frivolous court cases, repeating lies about the election for weeks, culminating in insurrection and attack on the US Capitol to prevent the peaceful transfer of power - ongoing trial
  12. Stole classified documents and obstructed efforts to get them back - ongoing trial
  13. Has never won the popular vote
  14. Glitches on 3, 2 and 1 syllable words, forgets his wife’s name
  15. Cheats at golf
  16. Makes frequent spelling mistakes on his social media accounts

This bit is a matter of opinion granted;

That; ‘He is the single weirdest and most off-putting human being on the face of the f***ing planet.’


Anyone who thinks all or even any of that is ‘Fake News’, their sole source of news must be Breitbart and Fox or they have been walking around with their eyes closed since 2016.
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Ugh.

I wasn't being serious.

Edit: just read the rest of the thread. Let there be no doubt that I think Trump - and probably most of his supporters - at deluded berks of the highest order.
 


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

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CNN (typically pro-Democrat) paints a very worrying picture for Biden supporters - Biden’s popularity is lower than any other President in modern history in the last months of his first term


But why is he so unpopular? Is it just the economy?


It seems it will boil down to which man proves to the American electorate that he is the lesser of 2 evils in the coming months. Time to contact the relatives living in Michigan to find out wtf is happening out there!
 
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Seagull58

Seagull58

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Jan 31, 2012
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Vilamoura, Portugal
Zeberdi said:
CNN (typically pro-Democrat) paints a very worrying picture for Biden supporters - Biden’s popularity is lower than any other President in modern history in the last months of his first term


But why is he so unpopular? Is it just the economy?


It seems it will boil down to which man proves to the American electorate that he is the lesser of 2 evils in the coming months. Time to contact the relatives living in Michigan to find out wtf is happening out there!
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It shouldn't be the economy because the economy is doing fairly well. Whether the brain dead yanks understand that is another matter though. Trump and his Putin-loving congressional pals are punting the southern border and illegal immigrants hard so that is likely to be a major factor.
 




BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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lasvegan said:
I hope you’re not assuming that the Mexican cartels aren’t profiting from sex trafficking?

on the other hand…

anncoulter.substack.com

"Katie" Britt's Estrogen-Laden Response to the SOTU

Who picks the Republican to give the response to State of the Union addresses?
anncoulter.substack.com anncoulter.substack.com

This is why Trump is so popular.
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Because women and minorities are speaking in public?

White males all the way for Trumpists.

It's great that this stuff is at the top of people's priorities too. The true winners of the culture wars.
 
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nicko31

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Zeberdi said:
CNN (typically pro-Democrat) paints a very worrying picture for Biden supporters - Biden’s popularity is lower than any other President in modern history in the last months of his first term


But why is he so unpopular? Is it just the economy?


It seems it will boil down to which man proves to the American electorate that he is the lesser of 2 evils in the coming months. Time to contact the relatives living in Michigan to find out wtf is happening out there!
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Michael Moore has been involved heavily to tell voters to state "non-commit" on the democrat ballot in Michigan, its all over over Biden's blind support for the Israel war machine.

Gaza is a huge issue among young voters, they won't vote Trump but the danger is they might not vote at all such is the level of disgust. Failing to vote may bury US democracy for good, I don't think that is fully understood
 
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BadFish

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Lol
 

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Kinky Gerbil

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Zeberdi said:
I agree - I think the abortion issue will feature heavily and Gaza too. It’s not that Biden is doing badly in his first term, especially on the economy but when you get a largely disgruntled electorate (post-pandemic, high inflation etc) you get the ‘grass is always greener’ phenomenon - it doesn’t matter what either party do or say, for a significant proportion of the electorate (mostly swingers/moderates) a change from the incumbent is the predominant thinking.
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I'd be interested to see how many governments got re-elected after the pandemic.

I can't say I've paid that much attention, but seems a decent number have stepped down/been voted out
 


nicko31

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