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rippleman

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2011
4,988
Chancellor forced to back down on NIC increase for self-employed

Been put across the PM's knee and given a damn good thrashing!

From BBC

Plans to increase National Insurance levels for self-employed people - announced in the Budget last week - have been dropped.

Chancellor Philip Hammond has said the government will not proceed with the increases which were criticised for breaking a 2015 manifesto pledge.

In a letter to Tory MPs, he said: "There will be no increases in... rates in this Parliament."

Mr Hammond will explain the U-turn in a Commons statement later.
 






Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,706
The Fatherland
Shambles.
 




ditchy

a man with a sound track record as a source of qua
Jul 8, 2003
5,251
brighton
Massive own goal !

This should please Enrest !!

Plans to increase National Insurance levels for self-employed people - announced in the Budget last week - have been dropped.
Chancellor Philip Hammond has said the government will not proceed with the increases which were criticised for breaking a 2015 manifesto pledge.
In a letter to Tory MPs, he said: "There will be no increases in... rates in this Parliament."
Labour's Jeremy Corbyn said the U-turn showed a government "in chaos"
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,170
Goldstone






Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,437
Here
Unfortunately todays PMQs seems to encapsulate and exemplify the competency defecit of both the government and the opposition. Politics in this coutry is a complete and utter shambles at the moment. The government is unable to stand up to its right wing shires men and women who are now leading the country out of the EU and are facilitating the break-up of the UK (in both cases they haven't got a scooby what the consequences are going to be) and the opposition is in complete thrall to its left wing and, like a rabbit caught in a headlight, is completely immobilised as a result.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,576
Gods country fortnightly
Omni shambles 2. You can't TRUST a Tory with the economy

23 years to win a election, 23 months to chaos

If they want to impose a Brexit levy going after NI on the self employed is far too blunt a tool. FFS just scrap the triple lock on pensions instead
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,267
2 billion quid to find. I wonder where the axe will fall.

Schools, hospitals, police?

My guess is the dividend tax. Corporation Tax will fall by 1% next month, so someone earning £50,000 profit will be better off by £500. A 1 1/2% hike in dividend tax from 7 1/2% to 9% would cost owner-managers of Ltd companies c. £400, so they'd still be better off by c. £100. Crucially, that rate of 9% would be the same as the Class 4 National Rate that is paid by the self-employed.

A tax rise without breaking the triple lock.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,018
My guess is the dividend tax. Corporation Tax will fall by 1% next month, so someone earning £50,000 profit will be better off by £500. A 1 1/2% hike in dividend tax from 7 1/2% to 9% would cost owner-managers of Ltd companies c. £400, so they'd still be better off by c. £100. Crucially, that rate of 9% would be the same as the Class 4 National Rate that is paid by the self-employed.

A tax rise without breaking the triple lock.

an interesting plan. if he had any minerals he'd tackle the anomaly of higher rate tax payer pension relief, recovering double figure billions and not really impacting anyone directly.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,267
an interesting plan. if he had any minerals he'd tackle the anomaly of higher rate tax payer pension relief, recovering double figure billions and not really impacting anyone directly.

Agreed. The Higher Rate relief is very generous, particularly to those within 10 years of retirement age who will be accessing the funds shortly anyway.
 


Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,385
Leek
23 years to win a election, 23 months to chaos

If they want to impose a Brexit levy going after NI on the self employed is far too blunt a tool. FFS just scrap the triple lock on pensions instead
You are not the first and won't be the last to suggest something like,but Hammond won't. Neither would Labour.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,576
Gods country fortnightly
You are not the first and won't be the last to suggest something like,but Hammond won't. Neither would Labour.

Real black hole in gov. finances now. Tories made a ridiculous manifesto pledge to not put up VAT, NI or Income tax. But of course they didn't budget for the slow motion car crash of Brexit
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,318
Living In a Box
Shocking U-turn however I cannot warm to May one bit, she appeared totally indecisive and now proved.

Maggie would have turned in her grave at this farcical cock-up
 


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